580:. Certainly non-admins shouldn't close contentious AfDs, as is made clear in the policy. However, any admin could have reopened the closure and none have been prepared to. 'No consensus' was a reasonable call on the discussion though I take Secret's point that the sources are pretty thin and I'm doubtful that this is a genuine term. The way forward is a relisting if any editor is still unhappy.
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What the heck??? I created an article on a person, since there was sufficient non-trivial coverage from multiple sources of him, beyond the mere fact he was a candidate (though I only added a little of it). I then asked for the old version (before the one I made) to be undeleted. So, now, it's been
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including multiple copyright violations. That's what happens when you do "category clearing". Some were notable, some were non-notable, and some were illegal copyright violations. Sorting things out, will require discussion for each individual bio. Sadly, that won't happen, since you went ahead
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The sourcing is NOT passing mentions. Each of the sources discusses the term in depth, describing why people are using the term, and what it means to them. There is a verifiable program using the term for marketing purposes. I don't know what these "passing mentions" are. I know what a passing
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and userfy to author on request. It is is not just the first two paragraphs, the whole article is shot full of unsourced hype such as "Mikri Arktos experienced an astounding success". The nominator should accept Splash's suggestion of producing a clean version in user space.
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Judging from the last version of the article, it seems to be a significant Greek book publisher & record producer. The article was very spammy in the first two paragraphs about the poetic virtues of the company's productions, but could be trimmed easily enough.
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