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as no consensus, defaulting to keep. Only three people actually stated whether the article merited being kept or being deleted. Ironically, the person who brought this to DRV made two posts without stating whether he/she was recommending keeping, deleting, or something else. Neither did the IP who
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indicated some plausible reason for importance and that is sufficient. It does not have to show enough to pass afd -- in fact, it probably wouldnt pass at this point, but any indication of notability deserves a group view to see if either the editor or others can source it. But to pass speedy, it
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The article didn't technically assert importance in any real way, at least not in the cached versions I can see. Inbound links are useful to consider but don't really prove anything. What is the actual claim of importance, and are there sources to back it up? If there's a decent answer to that
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made a comment (and in terms of determining consensus, !votes by IPs tend to be discounted in this process). So, depending on the interpretation of Cryptic's comments, there was either a consensus to keep or no consensus. Either way, the seven days passed and there was no consensus to delete.
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was deleted almost 2 hours later by a different admin under A7, and I'd definitely have deleted it myself under A7. If the article on the company fails to assert importance, than being its CEO is at best a tenuous assertion of importance. So I think the real claims are the new game search
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Closer seems to have read only the bolded words, not the actual discussion. Had he done the latter, he would have seen that, of the only two users wishing to keep this article, the first had repudiated his opinion, and the second - the article's primary author - had been refuted.
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This article underwent a speedy deletion on an unfounded basis. The numerousness of articles that link to it is itself already sufficient testament to the person's noteworthiness, to say nothing of the fact that it should have made any possible deletion subject to a discussion.
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I don't believe we ignore !votes from IPs because they're from IPs. Usually they're ignored because IPs aren't familiar with the AfD process and the
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and list at AfD. Evidence can be provided in the article during the AfD. If Dissident wants more time, userfy it for him. --
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Despite the apparent simplicity of the issue, seems the discussion was closed before a consensus either way took hold.
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there wasn't a consensus to keep there, and the discussion was leaning towards a delete result. More opinions needed.
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thrice? There is nothing ironic in me not making a bolded incantation; I was trying to form a consensus, not to
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For AFD to be anything but an exercise in process, it would be nice to see that evidence at DRV, if it exists. --
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Conventionally, it's taken as read that a proposer recommends deletion, except when it is stated otherwise.
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Also to Cryptic: It's customary to discuss the closure with the closing admin before listing here.
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and list at AFD. There is enough of an assertion of notability there to defeat an A7 speedy.
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techniques, neither of which has ever had an article, but might be important anyway.
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I see multiple possible claims, reproduced with intact red links. "he is CEO of
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question, this article should either be restored or userfied for improvements. --
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with more participation hopefully some kind of clear consensus will be reached.
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doesnt have to "prove anything" or have reliable "sources to back it up".
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discussion could benefit from increased participation, possibility of a
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The sources within the article at time of deletion included
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Needs more input on whether the article should be deleted.
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marks around his keep, to more explicitly indicate his
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as the first keep "voter" had withdrawn his opinion.
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Knowledge:Deletion review
Log
June 10
Deletion review archives
2008 June
June 12
11 June 2008
Victor Allis
Tikiwont
talk
07:54, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
deletion review
Victor Allis
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
restore
cache
AfD
An appeal to the responsible administrator
Dissident
Talk
23:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
his personal webpage

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