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deletion, it doesn't create an inalienable right regarding images. The intent of the criteria is clear, non-commercial only shouldn't be here except within the came bounds as other non-free content, the date was to prevent mass deletions occurring under the speedy criteria. I guess the questions I'd have are (1) Was it in use on any articles here when removed from commons, then we'd probably delete it as non-free and orphaned. (2) Featured pictures are always free, so this suggests the image was tagged incorrectly when here, so it would lose it's featured picture status anyway? --
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840:– I am undeleting this image. Decisions by Commons are not binding upon us and the image was deleted from English Knowledge under completely uncontroversial circumstances (CSD I8). It is my firm belief that the image has no creative input and is ineligible for copyright (after reviewing the discussion on Commons). I will not list the image for deletion, but I encourage other editors to do so (most likely at
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someone can see only the single article being debated, CFD's daily debates is for all to see, even if one only arrives at that page through the category tagged with the notice. Overturning this is bad precedent to require a "quorum" in any of these debates as many people don't add a comment when it appears to be unanimously going one direction or another.
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I miscommunicated my intent. I did not mean to suggest that the CFD should develop a consensus to recreate -- after all, that's the purpose of this DRV. Rather, I meant that the category should not be repopulated prior to the conclusion of the 2nd CFD - if it takes place, that is. I have stricken the
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No, that's the reverse of how everything on WP works. The debate should proceed in the usual way, but with the cat left empty, and if, at the end of it, there is no consensus to delete the category it can be re-populated. To insist that consensus must be shown to re-create it requires a double hurdle
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Knowledge. One requirement for featured images is for them to be free - so this one was improperly tagged. That a version of it was already uploaded before May 17, 2005 is splitting hairs to me - it
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So at some point it was moved to commons and then deleted from here? and now deleted from commons for incompatible license? So we should now restore it here? (I assume that is the situation). Not sure what the speedy crtieria has to do with this. It's a speedy criteria, it in itself governs speedy
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198:- The nomination had been open for 12 days and was uncontested, so the only procedural issue is the limited amount of participation, which is a fair objection. However, in this case, I felt that a lack of participation was an indication of implied consent, for the reason that while articles
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deletion was in fact a PROD which is not subject to G4 and where recreation constitutes contest. I'm therefore going to directly restore the article, and leave it to other processes to determine its eventual fate.
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on the association's website, and from skimming your contributions log I estimate that there were somewhat more than 200 articles and categories in the category at the time of deletion. --
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I don't think enough debate was given to this topic. I can't accept the organizational reason. Articles can be in many categories. It's far more apporpiate than a list.
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the CFD discussion ends with a consensus to recreate. The reason for my request is to avoid unnecessary edits should deletion be subsequently endorsed. –
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