1080:: This wasn't clear by any stretch of the imagination. Additional references were provided after the nominator and one other person commented and the anon who posted afterwards said "Clearly the notability bar for "Creative professionals" is high and not reached by Friedman. Lot's of quotes from CourtTV don't make it a notable article." Focusing on one potential negative without providing any evidence they actually tried to find good references. This would benefit from a wide discussion and based on the which includes links such as
780:- subject does not appear to pass relevant notability guidelines. Regardless of any vote-stacking no reliable sources were offered in support of notability. Regardless of any difficulty in sorting out Ghits, one would think that tours with several notable acts would lead to at least one hit in which both names appeared but that doesn't appear to be the case.
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I was notified by a bunch of readers over the weekend that the Wiki entry for myself (Brad
Friedman of The BRAD BLOG) had been removed for some reason. In trying to figure out why, I was able to figure out that any such "deletion review" should begin with contacting whoever seemed to delete it, which
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Appreciate your help and/or consideration (if only so that I can answer all the email I now seem to be getting about the entry where I was listed having been deleted for whatever reason. I'm sure it's no conspiracy, I'm just not sure why or what to tell folks about it, particulary, as I said, since
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Marshall of Talking Points Memo, Mike Malloy of The Mike Malloy Show, Cenk Uyger of The Young Turks Show, for example) and find them all still
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There are many articles around Wiki which still link to "my" now-deleted page, as they refer to various stories that I was either personally involved in, broke in the media (on a blog, in a magazine, on TV or radio etc.), and yet the entry is now deleted for some reason.
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P.S. I don't whether its appropriate for a person who is the subject of an article, to ask about such things him/herself but, well, see above. Hope it is!
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