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although, strictly speaking, I don't endorse the deletion as written. It's a bit of a grey area, but there was a very weak claim of notability so PROD would have been better. That said, there is absolutely no chance that this would pass an AFD as written, and undeleting it just to inevitable
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The lede's second sentence is "The D’Penguineers have won multiple awards at the regional and international levels...", which (in my opinion) is a sufficient declaration of notability that A7 shouldn't have applied. Just my two cents.
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wrote a book on them that will be released in 2011. It can be argued that those arguments were insufficient; but on those grounds, it should have been nominated for discussion, and NOT speedily deleted.
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