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313:, but I don't think the chiding of the nom above is appropriate - this was a non-admin close (though those are common at TfD) with minimal participation (also common at TfD) so if the nom thinks the closer didn't weigh the !keep arguments properly we can have a look. I don't think this is the case, though: the general rule is 254:. A navbox listing 11 articles serves a very different purpose from a broader one listing more than 200 articles, so the rationale for deletion is unpersuasive, and the "Keep" closure was correct given that no one other than the nominator voted for deletion. I don't understand why this was brought to DRV. 231:
close I make, although I do it often enough (probably more than the average closer, tbh), especially in cases where I think it would increase confidence in the close, provide helpful advice to editors, or for less clear outcomes. So really I can only refer back to the answer I gave at my talk, and in
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I regularly close TfDs and would have made the same call if I were to close this. The only somewhat reasonable alternative here would be to relist it, but given that there already was a relist, noone has supported the proposal except for the nominator and no new arguments for deletion have been
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for the PAG-based support of the keep arguments (which asserted that the template provides good navigational value), whilst the deletion argument is not supported by the same guideline. Hence I see no reason to wholly discredit the keep arguments, which is what would be required to achieve the
227:. My view is as I say there. I've closed a good number of TfD discussions at this point, and none without evaluating the arguments, regardless of the vote tally. Course, like all other closers at TfD, I don't see the need to write paragraphs for 237:"delete" result requested here. I will also note that I did relist it for further comments initially, so this discussion was already open for two weeks. Further, the achieved quorum is not atypical in the context of navbox TfDs. 197:). TfD is not a vote, and the two (only) keep comments amount to no more than "I like it" (expressed as "I don't like the alternative"). The closer has declined my request to reconsider. 160: 296:. The nominator here will be well aware that deletion review is used to address issues of failure to follow deletion process, not merely because they disagree with the outcome. 48: 34: 43: 177:
I'm asking that this close be overturned, or at least reopened and relisted, as the close does not appear to address the rationale for deletion (which includes
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The template is redundant to a better-designed template
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introduced since the relist I would not do so. In fact
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an attempted relist here the day before the close. --
181:), nor points raised in discussion (in particular, 8: 97:The following is an archived debate of the 63: 232:addition reference various portions of 314: 182: 178: 183:"there is not a single article using 7: 367:of the page listed in the heading. 28: 363:The above is an archive of the 18:Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review 1: 354:23:02, 3 November 2020 (UTC) 337:01:20, 3 November 2020 (UTC) 306:16:56, 2 November 2020 (UTC) 289:22:19, 1 November 2020 (UTC) 264:19:53, 1 November 2020 (UTC) 247:18:40, 1 November 2020 (UTC) 218:17:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC) 88:10:35, 8 November 2020 (UTC) 390: 192:{{Karlheinz Stockhausen}} 370:Please do not modify it. 189:which is not also using 104:Please do not modify it. 40:Deletion review archives 239:ProcrastinatingReader 225:Discussion on my talk 101:of the page above. 377: 376: 381: 372: 334: 326: 223:Closer comment: 216: 207: 203: 194: 193: 188: 187: 172: 167: 158: 144: 136: 128: 106: 64: 53: 33: 389: 388: 384: 383: 382: 380: 379: 378: 368: 365:deletion review 330: 322: 205: 199: 198: 191: 190: 185: 184: 168: 166: 163: 154: 153: 147: 140: 139: 132: 131: 124: 123: 102: 99:deletion review 62: 59:1 November 2020 55: 54: 51: 49:2020 November 2 46: 37: 35:2020 October 31 31: 26: 25: 24: 12: 11: 5: 387: 385: 375: 374: 359: 358: 357: 356: 339: 308: 291: 266: 249: 175: 174: 164: 151: 145: 137: 129: 121: 115:Template:Licht 109: 108: 93: 92: 91: 90: 76:close endorsed 71:Template:Licht 61: 56: 47: 38: 30: 29: 27: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 386: 373: 371: 366: 361: 360: 355: 351: 347: 343: 340: 338: 335: 333: 327: 325: 320: 319:SportingFlyer 316: 312: 309: 307: 303: 299: 295: 292: 290: 286: 282: 278: 275: 270: 267: 265: 261: 257: 253: 250: 248: 244: 240: 235: 230: 226: 222: 221: 220: 219: 215: 211: 206:Pigsonthewing 202: 196: 180: 171: 162: 157: 150: 143: 135: 127: 120: 116: 113: 112: 111: 110: 107: 105: 100: 95: 94: 89: 85: 81: 77: 73: 72: 68: 67: 66: 65: 60: 57: 50: 45: 44:2020 November 41: 36: 23: 19: 369: 362: 341: 329: 321: 310: 293: 268: 251: 228: 214:Andy's edits 210:Talk to Andy 201:Andy Mabbett 176: 103: 96: 75: 69: 58: 256:Newyorkbrad 281:Trialpears 346:SmokeyJoe 234:WP:NAVBOX 186:{{Licht}} 277:reverted 274:Primefac 80:Primefac 20:‎ | 342:Endorse 311:Endorse 294:Endorse 269:Endorse 252:Endorse 170:restore 134:history 298:Stifle 229:every 156:watch 149:links 52:: --> 16:< 350:talk 302:talk 285:talk 260:talk 243:talk 142:logs 126:edit 119:talk 84:talk 32:< 208:); 161:XfD 159:) ( 22:Log 352:) 304:) 287:) 262:) 245:) 212:; 86:) 78:. 74:– 42:: 348:( 332:C 328:· 324:T 300:( 283:( 258:( 241:( 204:( 195:" 173:) 165:| 152:| 146:| 138:| 130:| 122:| 117:( 82:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review
Log
2020 October 31
Deletion review archives
2020 November
2020 November 2
1 November 2020
Template:Licht
Primefac
talk
10:35, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
deletion review
Template:Licht
talk
edit
history
logs
links
watch
XfD
restore
Andy Mabbett
Talk to Andy
Andy's edits
17:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Discussion on my talk
WP:NAVBOX
ProcrastinatingReader
talk
18:40, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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