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completely agree to, i have stated above in detail why it was not qualifying for G4. I see then David (deleting admin) steps in, first removes the funding section and references from the page, and eventually deletes the whole article. How could someone delete an article under G4 when the CSD was already declined by another admin. G4 says "this applies to sufficiently identical copies, having any title, of a page deleted via its most recent deletion discussion." 80% of the articles i had cited as source were published after the AfD which took place five years ago (September 2016). The nomination/deletion was so erroneous it beggars belief.
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and the subject has since reveived a lot of coverage in reliable sources, an admin would be able to see it. They also don't appear to have checked online for new sources and to see if it now passes ncorp. I had cited around 30 reliable sources if memory serves me correctly and each covers the subject directly and in detail. Secondly, this article was put through afc and was approved because they found it to be notable. It was accepted by a seasoned editor. If the topic were not notable, they would have declined it there itself.
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deleted the page, but he may have been working off an old list of tagged articles, even though Lee Vilenski, who is indeed an admin, had declined the speedy tag with a reasonable rationale. As the article existed before it was deleted, I'm not sure I see a good reason for it to continue to exist in
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Thanks for keeping your perspective. I beg to differ with you on sending it to AFD and I would explain why. First, the person who marked it for speed deletion mustn't have checked when the previous article was afded and deleted or they wouldn't have G4 it only. The AFDed article was deleted in 2016
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though it was not similar to the previously deleted article. It had many new sources added, with significant coverage. I placed two undeletion requests at the deletion admin's talk page with no response. Maybe, they are busy, and therefore, i request a deletion review here. The person who nominated
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Thanks for undeleting Pepperfry. I checked the page history and noticed that the page was G4'ed on the 5th January 2021 and the speedy deletion was declined on the very day by an administrator who stated It has been four years since the AfD, and it does make a better attempt at meeting GNG which i
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An editor who has been around Knowledge (XXG) since 2014, who frequently participates in Article for Deletion discussions, and is an Autopatroller and GA contributors confused CSD with AFD? No way. If you see the editor has provided the link also to previous deletion discussion while G4'ing, so it
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Tungut bey, DavidNotMD (the user who edited the article prior to deletion) and David Gerard (who deleted and salted it) are not the same user. If they were, I would agree that that would be improper. As is, it's not clear to me why
502:, The article was submitted as a draft only, it was then accepted and moved to mainspace. The page was deleted through afd in 2016 and the last version was not similar to that. It had many 2019 & 20's sources added. 190:- The article was not deleted for notability, but as advertising. The article can be re-created in draft, and an extended-confirmed reviewer will be able to accept it. No need to restore any previous versions. 176: 481:- The draft title has not been salted. If the reviewer agrees that the draft should be accepted, the article title can be unsalted. Is the appellant asking for something else? 622:. The sources are non-independent and promotional, and the end result is a completely unsolvable promotional directory of information with no third party coverage. At best, 554:. Credible case that G4 did not apply, so send to AfD. Also, the AfD was years ago, and the SALTing was not done by consensus at AfD, so not generous leeway on the G4. β€” 211:(do we not have a shortcut for that anchor?) indicates that G11 is NOT one of the valid reasons to speedily delete content that has previously survived an XfD discussion. 48: 34: 947:
If you had asked the deleting admin about it, it could have been solved immediately. Now, has you have initiated a formal DRV, you have to wait for this to close. --
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the page doesn't seem to have checked it properly or it doesn't qualify for G4 in any way. The last version was completely different from the one deleted in 2016.
172: 43: 441: 802: 179:). I can't say about the last page version, but at some point in history the page has had a decent look, and eventually it can be restored at that state. 890:
Concur with Hobit that this doesn't need to be at DRV, that any admin can undelete this in good faith anticipation that sources will be added as stated.
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this doesn't need to be at DRV. Any admin can just undelete if you promise to add those sources. To be clear, this doesn't prevent a future AfD etc.
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I'm not sure two "no consensuses" means it "survived" (I might read "survived" as "kept") but there's enough doubt to merit further conversation.
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Disputed Speedy deletion. This article cannot be deleted as speedy, since it's subject it's notable and the article already survived 2 AFDs (
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Knowledge (XXG)--we do not exist to either be a directory of companies nor to be a promotional venue for emerging companies.
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I presume that the editors who tagged and deleted the article will want to nominated it a AfD. β€”
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please add the sources to the article promptly to avoid the risk of it being deleted again.
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If undeleted, list immediately at AfD. The deleted article was a woeful fail of
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please. Can't assess G4 without access to the before/after versions, can we?
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Not sure why this was unsourced. Please undelete it so it can be worked on.
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Reason for deletion: (Expired BLPPROD, unsourced BLP) Here are two sources:
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Okay, so will anyone here do this? Do I have to now go elsewhere?
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makes this clearer they were not confused between CSD and AfD.
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Survived AfD previously. β€” 221:05:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC) 200:17:38, 14 February 2021 (UTC) 87:08:35, 24 February 2021 (UTC) 853:. U. S. Department of Labor. 253:can be decided by the AFD. 1024: 479:Allow Re-Creation in Draft 188:Allow Re-Creation as Draft 1004:Please do not modify it. 911:or by asking an admin. β€” 758:Please do not modify it. 701:Please do not modify it. 385:Please do not modify it. 327:Please do not modify it. 207:Contra Robert McClenon, 103:Please do not modify it. 40:Deletion review archives 847:"Charles E. James, Sr" 835:"Charles E. James, Sr" 769:Charles E. James, Sr. 717:Charles E. 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Deletion review
Log
2021 February 13
Deletion review archives
2021 February
2021 February 15
14 February 2021
Fly Project
Sandstein
08:35, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
deletion review
Fly Project
talk
edit
history
logs
links
watch
restore
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2
XXN
Robert McClenon
talk
17:38, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
this
Jclemens
talk
05:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
SmokeyJoe

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