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I didn't use the frequency to endorse. I don't see see a problem with the decision. But why not instead create an article on the history of TFL mobility bus routes in London? I don't think the spirit of the discussion at AFD precludes that possibility; and then this article could be redirected there.
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Sorry, but the redirect and deletion arguments are not policy-based. Or, IMO, even correct. An article solely on a topic cannot be a "trivial mention" of that topic--claims otherwise should require pretty high standards to be accepted and those just aren't found in this discussion. And we have
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