406:: The main article says that this series "currently consists of seven games", which suggests that this topic should be those seven games? I don't understand the relationships among the different titles very well. You're saying that three of the titles are "central" to the series, and the rest can be grouped under them. I guess that probably works, if people more familiar with the topic agree that the other four titles are subordinate spin-offs to these three. A navbox linking the articles is there, but there should probably also be a category for these titles, if indeed they are part of a well-defined subseries. -
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causes the topic to be delisted, that it would affect this parent topic as well. In regards to the FF13 character articles- I'll fix this problem; we can easily either adjust the topic to only have the "characters" article and not the sub-articles on individual characters, or merge the two non-GA characters back to the parent article; I'm inclined to do the former as I don't think they needed to be split out in the first place. --
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FF13 (2009) and FF Type-0 (2011), even if Square Enix is allergic to formally shutting anything down. All three games had sequels and spinoffs and related media, and none of those related things were marketed as part of the FNC. This is a long way of saying that I agree with the choices for which articles to include this topic. --
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I appreciate your point, but a game and its development are inseparable from each other. XV's always been a problem child within FNC, but there remains a developer-attested thematic connection that's addressed in the main article, the dev article, and the FNC article. I can put the development within
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itself. The reason is because FFXV as the final product has very loose to almost no connection at all to the original mythos or its marketing campaign/strategy, whereas the 10 year development cycle as described in
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There are several featured topics that have subtopics where some or all of the articles in the subtopic could reasonably be included in the parent topic as well, so I don't think this sets a precedent. It's reasonable to assume that if one of the games in the Type-0 or FF13 topics gets delisted and
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The three in this article are the three originally announced as part of the FNC. The additional games around each title emerged in response to that title, not as part of the overall project's planned scope. I'd originally intended to include all titles, but decided it was better to keep the topic
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status on this topic and the subtopics (particularly the statuses of those sub games that are still part of the whole series) I am somewhat ready to support it. If at a later date, some parts of it fall into disrepair then I think we can revisit it then (particularly if those sub games fall into
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I checked the reference, and it's an opinion piece that uses the highly unreliable VGChartz for sales data, so I've removed that info entirely from the article. I've also corrected the second ref error, which referred to
Lightning Returns and is now used in the Sequels section. Hope this sorts
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I've addressed the lead issues you've raised, i.e. trimming out the huge amount of fluff put in post-promotion. I also removed a couple of uncited and unnecessary statements from the gameplay. It needs a bit of a lookthrough, but I think it'll suffice for the present.
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