719:: My concerns were largely addressed during the talk page review process. I have one point left over from that. In the "Anglo-American relations" section you refer to "the defections of two members of MI6 to the Soviet Union". Presumably these are Burgess and MacLean, and they should be named here. They have not been mentioned since the lead, and not everyone is sufficiently informed on Cold War treachery as to automatically identify them. That's all – an entertaining article that makes me (almost) want to read the book.
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character for television, radio, comic strip, video games, after shave, mobile phones, toys, etc, etc. For all that, it's a decent spy story by a first-time author; to paraphrase
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