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804:... a few days later, I feel pretty confident this is well on its way, after several review processes, and 4 unanimous supporters on this latest round alone. I don't want to rush this process, and my real hope is to start another FA process and continue improving other articles. Let me know if I would have permission to start in on that. 488:
Thanks for the clarifications โ€” and apologies, I did not see that "See also" section. The article looks nice by now; last stuff I would ask is have all the dollars consistent to US$ , and add {{Main|Sega v. Accolade|''Sega v. Accolade''}} at the top of "Console and legal challenges (1990โ€“1993)". Once
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The "renamed" part in the first sentence is because people do search for Infogrames North America, which is the name of Accolade after it had been changed. That said, if it's enough to have the bolded part in the third paragraph, at the end of its life, I could be talked into removing it. Trying to
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I'm nominating this after a few rounds of work and review. The previous FA-nomination(s) failed. I became busy during the first nomination, which was closed with some suggestions I didn't get to at the time. I have since incorporated the feedback, then sought a peer review for even more feedback. I
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This article is about a historic video game developer and publisher. They are of major importance in the early game industry, featuring veterans from highly notable peers such as Atari and Activision. They went on to create several notable franchises, especially in sports. Things get shaky in their
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There was a consensus that the uncited statement at the end is needed, because it objectively summarizes the other sources without making any novel claims. You could remove this sentence and just leave it at the previous sentence, which says "Infogrames had merged Infogrames North America into
950:"The Accolade brand was revived in 2018, when Hong Kong-based holding company Billionsoft acquired their former assets, leading to new Bubsy games published by Tommo". As noted last time around, the text gives a date of 2017 and does not mention new publications (just plans for such) 646:
Alright I gave the article a basic read-through and the only comment I have is admittedly pretty nitpicky. In the section "Console and legal challenges (1990โ€“1993)", the hatnote below the image looks very poor for me as a mobile reader. Could it be moved above the image perhaps?
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The article is comprehensive, well-researched, well-cited, neutral, and stable, using images in compliance with fair use. I feel optimistic that this article is close enough to the Featured article criteria that I can work on any remaining issues through this process.
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Infogrames Inc". But people have a hard time understanding what all these corporate renames and restructurings mean. This last part is added for clarity: it means Accolade was merged, renamed, then slowly dissolved into raw assets for another company. It's gone.
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You'll find that I addressed all of your comments from the first nomination. Happy to keep working on new suggestions, and trying to save time for all of us by not re-treading the same ground again.
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after the much appreciated source review from Nikkimaria. Would this now qualify as a pass, or at least good enough to start another featured article nomination while I wait for further feedback?
947:"the cost of the lawsuit was a financial strain for the company". The text says it was the impact of the injunction, rather than the actual cost of the lawsuit - which is correct? 408:"This marked the end of Infogrames North America as a separate company and what was left of Accolade as an entity." Just wanna ask clarification regarding the no citation here. 312:, disappointed in the archiving of the previous nomination. I reassured I would give support based on my initial thoughts and reactions prior. Sorry for not mentioning that! 628: 294:
that your support is on the basis of your feedback during the article's first nomination, but if so specifying this and providing a link helps out the coordinators. Cheers.
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Your welcome. This is a very unique FAC, and I do learn some things from here, also important since I'm also planning to have several articles (earliest on the line is
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final years, and the most detailed sources prefer to focus on their golden age. But there are enough reliable sources to explain their decline and overall fate.
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I think this is fixed now, thanks to Gerald Waldo Luis. I checked through all the refs and there should be no more sources credited to staff.
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does. Considering the history already covers it all, the prose is not needed. After all my comments got resolved, I'll support.
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Be consistent in how you're handling "staff" publications. For example FN46 is credited to IGN Staff, but FN51 is not - why?
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previously reviewed the sources, and hoping they can confirm that the article still passes their scrutiny. I'll also page
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A few editors stepped in to try to assist, so it's possible I missed something. Let me know if there's anything else.
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Still a bit inconsistent wrt staff publications. They're now gone from IGN, but eg FN1 still uses a staff credit.
359:* "(renamed as Infogrames North America, Inc. in 1999)"-- this is later stated in paragraph 3. Is it needed here? 249: 466:
I added some dates, and hopefully people don't have too many different opinions on that. There was previously a
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Putting this here as a placeholder, will leave comments soon. In the meantime, if you could leave comments on
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Unique FAC, as it is just one section, but eh, at least it's comprehensive. These comments might help:
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It would need a source review to at least be well under way, if not passed, for that I am afraid.
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Thank you again to the coordinators, and to everyone who chimed in with suggested improvements.
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Be consistent in when you include publisher - you've got it in FN53 but not other similar refs.
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one more time, as she reviewed the sources last time and they have not substantially changed.
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has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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Despite only having one header, it manages to be highly comprehensive and well-written.
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Awesome! To finalize, I italicized the hatnote and added upright to the image. Glad to
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Changed the lead and the image captions to be consistent with the article and sources.
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I'm paging a few editors from previous reviews who might want to check back in.
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I usually like to have brackets after the game stating its year. For example,
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got ahead of myself with the second nomination, but third time is a charm.
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has returned to once again review the images and licensing, with support.
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that was removed as part of a previous peer review / FA, and split into
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was too fast for me, and has covered the images and fair use criteria.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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Politely pinging a few editors who reviewed the first edition.
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Thanks for the review. That should address all the comments
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In addition, I suggest having a list of games table, like
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previously reviewed this article for accessibility, and
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Feel free to start another. And thanks for the ping.
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satisfy a lot of different editorial opinions here.
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Should be all done now. 338: 1001:Adjusted the references as you suggested. 661:That's an easy fix. Done. Anything else? 957:games, but that's narrower than "sports" 7: 966:FN32 is missing language indication 631:of mine, it would be appreciated. 24: 675:Nope. Looks good to me. Happy to 414:"a California video game" --: --> 400:"series with 3D polygon" --: --> 489:that's resolved, I'll support. 404:"Accolade expanded the" --: --> 582:Living in the Age of Airplanes 378:"when Hong Kong-based"-- link 332:Support from Gerald Waldo Luis 1: 263:Staying true to my promise, 1077:featured article candidates 455:Infogrames Entertainment SA 31:featured article nomination 1144: 1114:17:17, 7 August 2021 (UTC) 1096:13:13, 7 August 2021 (UTC) 901:20:04, 2 August 2021 (UTC) 887:01:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC) 415:"a Californian video game" 1051:12:56, 31 July 2021 (UTC) 1030:00:58, 31 July 2021 (UTC) 1016:13:24, 30 July 2021 (UTC) 982:01:29, 30 July 2021 (UTC) 939:14:20, 31 July 2021 (UTC) 857:13:29, 29 July 2021 (UTC) 832:13:26, 29 July 2021 (UTC) 814:13:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC) 785:03:10, 26 July 2021 (UTC) 703:02:57, 26 July 2021 (UTC) 689:02:52, 26 July 2021 (UTC) 671:01:06, 26 July 2021 (UTC) 657:17:18, 25 July 2021 (UTC) 641:17:07, 25 July 2021 (UTC) 602:01:45, 22 July 2021 (UTC) 576:01:30, 22 July 2021 (UTC) 562:01:29, 22 July 2021 (UTC) 540:01:23, 22 July 2021 (UTC) 503:01:12, 22 July 2021 (UTC) 484:17:31, 21 July 2021 (UTC) 437:03:33, 21 July 2021 (UTC) 353:01:35, 22 July 2021 (UTC) 321:19:08, 22 July 2021 (UTC) 304:18:15, 22 July 2021 (UTC) 281:15:04, 20 July 2021 (UTC) 254:10:31, 24 July 2021 (UTC) 234:15:01, 20 July 2021 (UTC) 160:15:01, 20 July 2021 (UTC) 143:14:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC) 117:14:52, 20 July 2021 (UTC) 91:14:52, 20 July 2021 (UTC) 1124:Please do not modify it. 390:, but the combat one is 388:amateur flight simulator 36:Please do not modify it. 392:combat flight simulator 310:User talk:Shooterwalker 197:For technical, there's 715:Comment from nominator 472:List of Accolade games 919:Spotchecks not done. 720:I count support from 623:Support from Link20XX 588:? It can help a lot. 259:Support from Panini! 126:- is appropriate. 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Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates
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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured article candidates
Gog the Mild
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The Rambling Man
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