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Looks good. If there are no differences between the printed and the online version, I would add the print ISBN, but it probably doesn't matter much either way. You could let the other sources decide whether her work as an author is important enough to be discussed. The mention in
Epstein 2008 p. 704
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In 1949, Smith left China and moved to
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There's not much in the way of a discussion of her as an author as far as I have seen. I'll take a look at the print versions for ADB. It seems like they update posts periodically online so I'm not sure that there's a categorical match between one print version and the online version.
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I'm suggesting here that you note the various close links like the ADB, etc, entries do which illustrate that they openly lived together (for instance, I just saw a news story on Trove from 1940 that noted that they shared a house in
Shanghai together as 'friends').
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Thanks for the ping. I see that some newspapers and magazines were added. The China Press is probably not ideal for politics but it's only used in the article for factual information about Smith so it should be fine. I didn't spot problems with the other additions.
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Good job. I have trimmed a couple of factoids which I don't think are important enough for the lead and lightly copy edited, and put this version on the FAC talk page. See what you think, I don't insist on all of
563:, and most of the things on Google Books, appear to be government reports written in her capacity as trade commissioner. She did write a few law journal articles. Maybe I'll add a bibliography to the article.
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760:, you anywhere near southern Sydney, or know anyone who is? But don't worry about it. I have just checked three sources and none of them give a date, so I strongly suspect it's not known.
334:"Smith studied business administration" - I think changing this to "She studied business administration" would avoid any possible confusion about which Smith is being referred to
990:...she and other Western expatriates viewed their role as engaging in dialogue with Chinese women and "sincerely endeavor to reflect the best of American ideals and traditions".
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expansion of
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During her time as a clerk, Smith requested permission to sit for a civil service examination so that she could obtain a promotion to assistant trade commissioner.
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Addie Viola Smith was born in
Stockton, California, on November 14, 1893, to Rufus Roy Smith, a publisher, and Addie Gabriela Smith (nÊe Brown)
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Same as above so as to avoid repeating "Smith" in consecutive sentences when it is understood that she's beem referred to.
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Both were memorialized by their friends with two stone seats at the E.G. Waterhouse National Camellia Gardens in Caringbah.
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I've trimmed the lead. Let me know if you want me to try to cut more.
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She also served as the registrar of the Chinese Trade Act of 1922.
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That's all I got, this is an excellent article! Wonderful work
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This is an interesting article. I have the following comments:
698:, the lead should consist of one or, at most, two paragraphs.
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https://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8057psg/entire_text/
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All of the above done. I'm citing the online version of the
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That's a thought, a photo of them would make a nice extra.
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More preferable. Rest of the lead is fine. Regards.
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I'm not sure. Do you know any editors who can go to
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File:Addie Viola Smith circa 1928, Evening Star.jpg
1345:The above discussion is preserved as an archive.
1004:Not done. United States is clearer than American.
118:Consulate General of the United States, Shanghai
43:. No further edits should be made to this page.
303:this nomination. Please see my comment above.
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641:: Just to note, I've added a few more cites.
435:picks up one potential case of copyvios with
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447:The station launched on February 19, 1939.
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1171:- why the brackets with a space?
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1279:: US government, checks out.
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835:Copied your version over.
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686:Support from Gog the Mild
520:Epstein 2008, p. 709â710.
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509:A few other observations
1348:Please do not modify it.
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1285:: PD by age, checks out.
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110:Foreign Service officer
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1293:UndercoverClassicist
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561:Motor Roads in China
538:Motor Roads in China
413:Source review - pass
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1078:Voorts
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801:Done.
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190:Added.
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1106:MyCat
1022:Done.
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994:Done.
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951:Done.
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346:Done.
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