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I started writing about this Argentinean rodent because we had articles about several different species that recently turned out to be the same as this one, and I felt that our article should make clear why all those supposed species are invalid. I then decided to take the article a step further and
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I'm following the spelling used in the sources here; the Red List gives him as "Pardinas" (as a matter of fact, it always omits diacritics) and the other sources correctly spell his name "Pardiñas". I'm not sure whether there's any convention about changing the spelling used for the author within a
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I think we discussed this a few times in various FACs, but I generally prefer to omit this information. The article mentions a lot of scientists, and adding "Argentinean zoologist" and "American zoologist" etcetera to all of them would add much information that is of no real relevance of
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Thanks again for checking my sloppiness. SAREM is the Sociedad Argentina para el Estudio de los Mamíferos. However, its name is pretty much always abbreviated, so I'd like to keep it as "SAREM".
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We still should name the specific structures, just as we name the specific people involved in the taxonomy. It's not jargon, but what the things are called: they have no non-jargon names.
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if the species only occurs in Northwestern Argentina, how can it be considered "widespread" and "widely-distributed"? Or should the lead sentence say that it was "
859:"Akodon polopi, however, has even better developed crests." needs hyphen, but I'm not sure "better" is the best word choice here. Same thing 2 sentences later. 879:"A number of sigmodontines have been recorded alongside A. spegazzinii" could you clarify "recorded alongside"? Does this mean they have overlapping ranges? 40: 862:
And also a paragraph or so up. Perhaps I could use "more well-developed" here, but I'm pretty sure I've used that before and someone changed it to this.
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But the last sentence ends with "a single, widespread and variable species", which the "It" appropriately refers to. I'm open to a rewording, though.
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we are not bound by that, I've never used that format for iucn docs. It lacks consistency with all the other references in your excellent article
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make it as comprehensive as I could. Dana boomer has provided a useful GA review and I hope it will now be found worthy to be a featured article.
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I've changed to support, since no real problems. I've left two items unstruck, since I'd be interested to see if anyone else has views on those
782:"Meanwhile, Carlos Galliari and Pardiñas had recognized Akodon leucolimnaeus as a true Akodon, not a Necromys, in 1995." publication/citation? 88: 83: 92: 30: 17: 430:— Not a big deal, but adding something like "British zoologist" before the main players gives a little more info without following the link 939:
But the thing is called the "IUCN Red List", never the "International Union for Conservation of Nature Red List", as far as I am aware.
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Akodon spegazzinii is related to Akodon boliviensis and other members of the A. boliviensis species group. It reproduces...
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Number of pages for book sources is not required; however, for consistency they should be included for all or for none
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Pardiñas et al. (2011) repeatedly call this species "widespread". Relative to other species in its group, such as
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This one's easy. One range map, easily checks out fine. I will be doing a full article review shortly. –
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If all we know is that they are crests on the braincase, there is no point naming them. I can guess that
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Well, none of the other references are web-only sources, so there's a little to be inconsistent with.
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work, but would be happy to submit to any consensus. I think I once noticed a similar problem with
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and the lack of large samples and appreciation of the substantial variation occurring within
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I slightly prefer the current wording, because they are reddish brown, not actually red.
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They're crests on the braincase; I don't think anything else will really be useful.
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Since "lambdoid crests" is red-linked, is it possible to give a brief description?
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I think the context already makes that clear: they're crests on the braincase.
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you might want to put non-breaking spaces in your refs after p.'s and fig.'s
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used this way, but I guess if one of its meanings is "through", it's ok.
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Other than that, I'm looking forward to supporting soon. Good job! –
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is linked, though, and these cloud grasslands are part of the Yungas.
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No; I don't think the trade in little grass mice is of any concern.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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I guess I need to start using that explanation on my FACs then. –
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You think rodents have only two ears and one tail? Tsk. (Changed.)
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hairier (unless they really do have more than 2 ears and 1 tail)
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My concerns have been addressed. I'm glad to add my support. –
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Got rid of it anyway; "and" seems better here instead of "via".
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At the Primeras Jornadas de Ciencias Naturales del Litoral in
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I haven't seen the paper; it's some kind of meeting abstract.
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here, newbies probably won't know what this means otherwise
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They seem to work now. The SCIELO website is rather shaky.
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Bibliographic information for Díaz and Barquez, 2007?
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