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point, in the lead. The word "succulent" has a general meaning of "tasty", as in "a succulent steak", and a somewhat different biological meaning. Only biologists will be aware of the latter meaning, so most readers will assume from "As a succulent, drought-deciduous tree..." that the tree has a delicious taste. Is there any other way of putting this, that won't mislead your non-specialist readers?
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I don't usually comment on biological/botanical articles, but I thought this looked interesting and worth more FAC attention than it's had in nearly four weeks. I'll leave further comments in a day or so, when I've had time to read it properly. In the meantime I'll draw your attention to just one
464:"...with 12-25 pairs of lateral veins that are more prominent on the upper surface arising at 50-60 degrees from the midrib" – maybe needs a little more punctuation to make the sense clear, and perhaps "rising" rather than "arising", which has a rather different meaning? 998:: I'll leave the experts to discuss and tidy any remaining specialist issues; otherwise, the article is I think in fine shape, concise and readable and friendly enough to the non-expert who likes trees (saw some fascinating shapes in Madeira recently). 135:) and I have scoured all sources we can find to produce another plant article. It's succinct and comprehensive and tries (hopefully successfully) to balance plain english and exact technical language. Anyway, have at it. 393:
These are mainly requests or suggestions for tweaks to punc and prose, in addition to the few which I been bold enough to do myself. My main object is to improve where possible the readability for non-experts:
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I've found some information on the kurrajong leaf roller and added it. I can't find reports of any damage caused to this species by the pale cotton stainer bug, but I have added that it is a pest of cotton
431:"Trees in their native habitat are typically leafless between September and December," – the comma needs to be upgraded to semicolon or full stop. Alternatively you could replace "however" with "but". 949:
Punctuation in the footnote (an errant comma) needs attention. Also "and now sunk" → "and is now sunk". Statements given in footnotes are subject to the same citation standards as apply to text.
1352:"Other common species include broad-leaved bottle tree (Brachychiton australis) and belah (Casuarina cristata)." - Do you mean that it is often found growing in association with these trees? 808:
Conservation section: I'd rejig the last sentence so that it reads: "The species is conserved within its natural habitat in a number of National Parks:" – followed by the listing of names.
1524:"Plants are readily propagated from seed. Collection requires care as they are surrounded by irritating hairs." - A little more information is needed to link these juxtaposed sentences. 1261:
funnily enough i was talking to someone this afternoon about this - it comes from botanists and lack of free time I suspect. Guymer is apparently going to officially describe it soon.
530:"The undescribed Ormeau bottle tree". Perhaps "the then undescribed"? I believe "undescribed" has a specific botanical meaning, but this needs to be clearer for non-specialists 1022:
I drive by on the way to work and I have seen its trunk double in width over about 7-8 years. Some person just planted it on their nature strip outside their back fence.
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The brief final paragraph of the Taxonomy section seems a bit detached, and could be better incorporated with a little more explanation beyond thr biological terms.
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You have one sentence on insects but it doesn't say if these are harmful to the host tree, or anything else about their effect on the tree.
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In general this looks like a neat and efficient job and a worthy addition to the "intelligent" dimension of the encyclopedia.
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The only thing that I could find related to that is nitrate poisoning of stock, which is mentioned under uses. I added a link.
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gosh, I'd never thought about it like that as I've grown cacti since I was a kid and just used the word. Have bluelinked to
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emergent trees are those that grow above the canopy layer of a forest. The only place to link to I can find thus far is
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have rejigged it as I realised the discussion on classification at genus/subfamily level takes place in the next para
1055:"... up to 11 centimetres (4.3 in) long and 2 centimetres (0.79 in) wide." - The second conversion seems too precise. 1088:"... The adult leaf blades are 4–11 centimetres (1.6–4.3 in) long and 0.8–2 centimetres (0.31–0.79 in)" - Ditto. 916: 1863:
I used "have been" as it has happened in the past and I suspect still happens now, hence use of perfect tense..
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A nice article. Just a few comments - (you may disagree with me on the conversion measurements I mention):
1253:"The undescribed Ormeau bottle tree ..." - Is this a recognised species that nobody has bothered to study? 1003: 986: 379: 164:
that used to highlight this is down, so we're on manual for the moment as far as checking goes... Cheers,
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added a comma. used "arising" rather than "rising" as it means originating rather than going up here....
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There is inconsistency in the book source citations with regard to publishers names, printers, etc.
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There is inconsistency on whether foreign language sources mention their language (#15, #16, #44).
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Actually might not be eligible as almost all major work done last year. So will leave it off.
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I have bluelinked it - if that is not enough I was tempted to add "(lineage)" there as well
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You mention the male flowers but not the female ones. What of the stigma, style and ovary?
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done partly - as a genus name it refers to a whole bunch of species, not just one species
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has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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When you give the common names, e.g. "Queensland bottle tree", these should be in quotes
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that you can use to warm roots/root formation in cool or cold weather. linked now to
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this might be tricky as information is hard to come by...will see what I can do
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I can't see much wrong with this, thanks to previous reviewers, and I assume
1154:"These arise from axillary buds on end branches." - Could be better expressed. 717:
over many decades! the time is at the front of the sentence as this follows on
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There is some inconsistency on how you number pages in the reference section.
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and switched the word order to make it a bit more nouny...does that help?
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it is linked - having a hard time thinking how to rephrase this one....
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outstanding queries will be fixed. Just three minor suggestion follow
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This article is about an unusual succulent tree native to Australia.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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it means von Mueller considered the genus part of the larger genus
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article. Am about to go to sleep now and will try to do tomorrow.
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this candidate on the grounds of comprehensiveness and prose.
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done...showing my age here as the former usual in the 70s....
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Tessellation— fairly technical with no link or explanation.
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I'm not being facetious, but can you explain "bottom heat"?
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The list of synonyms in the taxobox seems incomplete.
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Hi Cas, could you let us know whether or not this a
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whole trees have been felled—why not "were felled"?
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Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates
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Ian Rose
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13:31, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Brachychiton rupestris
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Cas Liber
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13:43, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Melburnian
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Cas Liber
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13:43, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
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Ian Rose
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13:18, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
Cas Liber
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