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I have changed my opinion to strong oppose, since the article editors have responded to my citation request by simply removing the {{fact}} tag, rather than finding a suitable reference. (The citation at the end of that paragraph does not support the statement. Parallel worlds are a recurring motif
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On my cursory read-through, I found various stylistic issues, and a number of places where the plot could be tightened. I expect that there are more still present. There is one statement that I think needs a citation (I marked it in the text). I'm extremely surprised that the Doctor Who
Magazine
127:"Rose was used several times in the third series, from an attempt to use the memory to weaken the Doctor in "The Shakespeare Code", to being an annoyance to companions Donna Noble in "The Runaway Bride" and Martha Jones in "Gridlock"." I don't quite follow this sentence. Could do with re-pharing it.
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The final sentence of the plot section is "He looks up to see a woman in a wedding dress, who sharply demands that he tell her where she is." Who is "she"? If the "she" is an unknown character, then maybe it should be italicized or put in quotation marks.
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The source doesn't go into detail why it should've been Mickey, neither does the commentary (which are the only two places where the information can be gotten from, really). And what do you mean by "ce"?
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What stylistic issues? DWM is cited by A Brief
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Well, I just showed you that it's most likely Lizo. Steven Moffat has posted there. David
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219:"The award was won by "The Girl in the Fireplace", an episode from the second series that had aired several weeks previously." not really anything to do with the Doomsday episode.
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The track as a whole represents Rose's unbridled energy and her heart beating as she searches for the Doctor." Don't quite under this sentence. How does the track do this?
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994:Not quite.
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