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I went to change this as it seemed like a bit of a weasel word, but it does appear to be there for a reason. The opening paragraph of the section says that the size isn't well known. Then, the second paragraph says that, in addition, the size of the primary isn't even well-defined. The word "even"
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Probably not. The secular rate of increase is less than 0.1 magnitudes per decade, with more rapid changes of at least that scale superimposed on the trend. The apparent magnitude just doesn't get officially reported very often, and only a statistically analysed number consistent with previous data
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It is talked about in a wordy way bottom page 20 and page 21, but the term "Charles Tree" and "Oak" are used for Robur Carolinum. Regarding the names, the article is really focussed on the brightness variations so is not fussing about when it was called Eta Argus, Eta Navis or Eta Carinae but refers
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Yes, bibcodes are like PMID or DOI numbers and they are handled by the cite template. At the moment they happen to point to absabs.harvard.edu and the template creates the full URL automatically. Bibcodes will probably stay there for the conceivable future, but if they ever moved then the template
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2. RE: "Observations at the Cape of Good Hope indicated it peaked in brightness, surpassing Canopus, over March 11 to 14 1843 before beginning to fade, then brightening to between the brightness of Alpha Centauri and Canopus between March 24 and 28 before fading once again". Should "brightening" be
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I've linked a couple of terms, although it may not be obvious that they are to explain the notation rather than being specific to the chemical element or the actual ion. The differing notation is used when referring to an actual ion rather than the originator of a spectral line. Both are correct
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It is slightly better when zoomed, but as a thumbnail it won't add much understanding. I am happy with the images in the article now. They do lead to another question about the intensive observations that are happening now. Are these keen amateurs? Is this worth a a mention in the article?
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We don't know how big either star is because of the dust and gas in the way, but we do know Eta Carinae B is likely to be a star with a clear-cut surface (like most stars), however Eta Carinae A seems to be disrupted and chaotic, so that it may not even have a clear-cut surface, which is
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Reference " Mehner, A.; Ishibashi, K.; Whitelock, P.; Nagayama, T.; Feast, M.; Van Wyk, F.; De Wit, W.-J. (2014). "VizieR Online Data Catalog: Near-infrared photometry of {eta} Carinae" says its from "2014A&A...564A..14M" but this is obviously an abbreviation for another publication
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could perhaps be used to support a more recent magnitude claim. Click through on the green chart to see individual V observations up to Aug 30th 2014, clearly showing the blip up. AAVSO estimates suggest the brightness very quickly dropped back to 4.5 or 4.6 and has stayed there.
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I think this is correct. Despite the different titles, one is the online catalogue for the other. Apparently at least some VizieR catalogs come with their own bibcodes. I could just use the journal paper for both, but that is just hiding the relevant facts behind another
2017:, and I tend to feel impostor is more correct. Several sources state that both are correct but impostor is more common. I have a feeling that at some point my spellchecker baulked at impostor and I have been adding imposter, but I've now changed all instances to 1118:
Good point; it doesn't really seem to fit there. However, I loath to have a one-sentence level 2 section about meteor showers, since nothing else really fits with it. I see you wanted the "see also" section removed, but I think it may be the ideal choice in this
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thanks for the support, those links aren't via a url parameter but from the bibcode parameter. Not sure how to do it with that. The harvard website is a pretty massive one with fulltexts of a huge number of astronomy papers - I can't imagine it going down or
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In 1751 Nicolas Louis de Lacaille mapped the stars of Argo Navis and Robur Carolinum and divided them into separate smaller constellations. The star was placed within the keel portion of the ship named as the new constellation Carina, gaining the name Eta
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1. On a random check, refs 35, 43, 48, 50, 54, 65, 73, 87, 114 and 115 point to a Harvard University website. Do you think these links should be archived? It's very easy to archive links, btw. If you're not sure how to do this, please let me know.
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That is explained on bottom of page 14 and onto page 15. Hues described the bright stars and did not appear to notice Eta Carinae, leading to the assumption that it was not bright enough to stand out at the time. Hues description is pretty vague
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I checked the lua module for this, and there is no easy work around as I thought there might be. If more authors can be found then diusplay-authors=2 could be used to make et al appear. But it always complains if you input that text.
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The White, S. M.; Duncan, R. A.; Chapman, J. M.; Koribalski, B. (2005). "The Radio Cycle of Eta Carinae" reference is missing some info, like the name of the series, publisher, or conference name, and page number looks inconsistent.
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Most are formatted by a solar mass tag, so we're stuck with that. The two different ones are within journal titles, which tend to be ascii-fied. I've changed those two to match the Knowledge (XXG) template
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Interestingly, the author list in the reference itself has "et al." for the 3rd author. I'm not sure how to go about changing this here, since I'm not seeing a clear way of discovering who the other authors
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reference "VizieR Online Data Catalog: General Catalogue of Variable Stars (Samus+ 2007-2013)" has CS1 maint: Explicit use of et al. (these three errors put the article into hidden maintenance categories)
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Okay, I agree with you and would remove the second "it", however most reviewers much prefer the second "it" to remain (I've had sentences like these tweaked many times at FAC!). It is a style thing...
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I've made some of the images a little larger; I don't want to make them too much larger, as making the text not appears squished is important, since many screens (including my own) are only 13 inches.
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5. RE: "In some scenarios, the secondary can accrue significant mass, accelerating its evolution, and in turn being stripped by the now compact Wolf–Rayet primary". The grammar here is puzzling.
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I have described the timeline in more detail, following Frew, and added the reference. The Humphreys reference was mostly for the absolute magnitude stuff in the second half of that paragraph.
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Also known as the Oxford comma. I know some people don't like them, but they are occasionally important for clarity, so I use them except in the very rare cases where they would be confusing.
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to see it from a layperson's point of view to make it as accessible as possible. We reckon we're pretty close to FA status and promise to fix stuff as quickly as possible. Have at it. cheers,
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The light curve generator cuts off the date, and I haven't found a way to fix it. The current image is up to date bar a few weeks. I'll update the captions to reflect the correct dates.
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I've spot-checked a number of further references, and all seems in order. I'm happy with the changes made to address my previous concerns, which seem largely limited to one section.
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Ref 27, page numbering is inaccurate. Also, the section gives 1887-1895, but p. 1127 gives 1887-1894. I couldn't find the 7.5 figure in the article, otherwise it looks generally OK.
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1. RE: "Eta Carinae is too far south to be part of the mansion-based traditional Chinese astronomy, but it was mapped when ...". Do you not think the word "it" may be redundant?
2684:: it's the main repository of astronomy papers, and it's been running since 1992 so it (hopefully) shouldn't need archiving any time soon! If it does, there are mirrors (e.g., 3055:
Eta Carinae has the names Tseen She (from the Chinese 天社 "Heaven's altar") and Foramen. It is also known as 海山二 (Hǎi Shān èr, English: the Second Star of Sea and Mountain)"
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closer - it talks about "50 light-years" for much of the paper and so appears to use this to define "nearby". I've rejigged this a little having just now read both papers.
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The names are referenced in the starbox. I can repeat the references in the text if you think it is necessary, but tend not to in most cases, to avoid citation overload.
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D. John Hillier; K. Davidson; K. Ishibashi; T. Gull (June 2001). "On the Nature of the Central Source in η Carinae". has an abbreviated journal title ApJ - what is that?
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I have fixed 3 CS1 errors and added some alt= text for most images. Can someone please check my alt text? Otherwise the rest of the article is ready to go so I will add
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issue. I generally didn't use them, but they are very useful if you have to slot a reference for something in a list. Many people here use them. Again a style thing..
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Some astronomy papers just give the first page rather than page range. tweaked now. year changed. I've seen both years used but have aligned with source. back later
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could really be used in Knowledge (XXG). The brightness actually took a bit of a blip up in mid-2014 during the periastron passage, but then dropped back. The
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section to try and clarify (or confuse!) the issue of the temperature of the primary star. I've added a little explanation of what a hydrostatic core might be.
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are also problematic. The source is entirely in Chinese, and I see no mention of "Foramen". However, that may simply be because it is transcribed in Chinese.
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to it by its modern name and older names when in quotes without comment assuming readers are familiar with the name changes without the need to explain them.
1775:"complete loss of the Earth's ozone layer is a plausible consequence of a nearby supernova": does 'nearby' mean a distance closer or further than Eta Car? 1857:
I am going through this word by word in alphabetical order, and I have fixed many minor issues. But I have found these that I would like ideas on:
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Certainly. 99% of observations of bright variable stars are made by amateurs. I don't know quite what we do with that factoid though, if anything.
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Also, I just tried to create an image without the truncated X-axis, but it appears to be a bug in the software itself, which cuts off the last date.
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Consistency is good. Since it is largely British spelling now, should we add a British Spelling tag to try and keep it consistent in the future?
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I've done a somewhat clunky workaround, but it seems to now be displaying correctly with no CS1 error, even if the wikitext is a little messy.
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Strange initial abbreviations of J.-M. and J.-C. Perhaps this is a French style as the publishers also use this "-". But should we use it?
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I have concerns with the use of astronomical notation without explanation, which may make parts of the article inaccessible to lay readers.
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The lead sentence could already include an exciting fact about the star, that it once was the second brightest star. (not sure about this)
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Final paragraph seems OK; however the page no. 6 given for ref 2 (Frew 2004) does not apply to all the instances where that ref is cited.
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could be replaced with an update. Also the date on the X axis is truncated. It looks like you can make a new graph from the same place:
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Reference Wilson, Ralph Elmer (1953). "General catalogue of stellar radial velocities". has a stray "0" - is that a month or something?
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The "2" should be subscript, the Eta should be η, Feii looks like it should be "Fe II" but perhaps the II needs to be in small caps.
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The see also section should not be needed in a FA. The terms should be linked from somewhere in the article if they are relevant.
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I've always seen hyphenated names (often chinese names as well as french) done this way so does not strike me as odd at all, sorry
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The same section, most of the first para is referenced to Frew 2004. However, the statement "when he recorded the star simply as
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has Pieter Keyser 1595-96 observation. Frew 2004, p. 42 mentions an earlier observation by "Hues". Shouldn't this be mentioned?
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Problem is, in this case, the source itself doesn't give any more authors, but rather lists the rest after Durlevich as "et al".
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Reference "The periodicity of the η Carinae events†‡§¶" has a set of foot notes that should not really be in the title "†‡§¶"
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Most duplicate links removed. I kept a few that I felt were useful to have around the area they were in, but got rid of most.
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which says doi=10.1051/0004-6361/201322729 title="Near-infrared evidence for a sudden temperature increase in Eta Carinae"
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reference " 陳久金 (2005). 中國星座神 (in Chinese). 台灣書房出版有限公司." could do with some translation of author and title into English.
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I would agree with Lithopsian here; I usually prefer the comma since leaving it out can sometimes cause ambiguity.
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This article is about the biggest baddest star (system) within 10,000 light-years. It's had input from astronomer
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I rejigged like this to list its prodigious luminosity and the brightness in the 1840s in the first few sentences
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I wrote that. A suitable reference would be Catalogus stellarum australium itself. You should be able to see
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There are a few duplinks you might be able to lose (I assume someone would have Ucucha's checker installed).
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Use of "color" however the rest of the article looks like British English, should we change this to colour?
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Oops, I guess how I replied could be considered ambiguous; I only meant the last bullet point was addressed.
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That text works for me. If there was a section on the location in the sky, that would be the logical place.
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Does the sentence on Eta Carinids belong under Visibility? Some may think these meteors come from the star.
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Three uses of "our" for our galaxy, and "our own Sun". Should this just be "the Milky Way" and "the Sun"?
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imposter and impostor both appear for the same kind of thing. We should use only one spelling, but what?
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4. RE: "The size of Eta Carinae A is not even well defined". I can't see why you've used the word "even".
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see, I like "our" here but nobody else seems to :(....I think it makes the prose more engaging personally
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Reference Will Gater; Anton Vamplew; Jacqueline Mitton. The practical astronomer has no date or publisher
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neither is wrong - impostor apparently slightly more correct. They are all that now anyway..it'll do..
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reference "The Tycho-2 catalogue of the 2.5 million brightest stars" has a CS1 maint: display-authors
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If there is no where to link them from, then the article is missing something that should be said, eg
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The Homunculus Nebula is mentioned before it is explained, and is not linked at its first occurrence.
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linked bolometric to wikt definition as succinct and figured a repeat link to luminosity too wordy.
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In that case we may have to download the image, expand the canvas and edit in the missing numbers.
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think there was an MOS discussion on it but haven't seen it for ages and maybe am imagining it...
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should rate a mention in the article in the missing section about things named after the star
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Aah got this now. They don't look like small caps on bibcode page so left them normal size.
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Some of the images could stand to be larger - particularly those with annotations or text.
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Smith, Nathan (2006). "The Structure of the Homunculus ..." reference has a mangled title.
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I've removed that sentence completely. It is now discussed, and worded, better elsewhere.
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has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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and could possibly be used in either case, but this seems to be how the pros use them.
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reference "Evolution and fate of very massive stars" has a CS1 maint: display-authors
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Studying the reference information, I find these issues, that should be easy to fix:
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Inconsistent use of m⊙ versus m☉ — they look the same but are not, what is correct?
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The article says " to magnitude 4.6 as of 2012", but can we get an update for 2015?
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Page numbering shortcuts, should we allow it - eg "927-32". I prefer "927-932".
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weird, that's the issue I think - the pages go from 1 to 76...ref adjusted now
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I can see this needs a more explicit ref and will find something to clarify
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In 1827 Burchell specifically noted its unusual brightness at 1st magnitude
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reference Ian Ridpath. Astronomy has no year of publication or publisher.
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not sure what's happened here. I think things have been shuffled about...
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hydrostatic "core"': what does this mean? It is unclear from the context.
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I like your work around! It works fine, and won't even mess up metadata.
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3. RE: "The peaks in 1827, 1838, and 1843". Is the second comma needed??
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could be linked from "extremely massive luminous star" or "most massive"
2968:- the only bits of this in the given source are "1751" and "Lacaille". 112:
who got some other professional astronomers to look at it as well, and
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thx for supporting and tweaking (alt texts look ok) - much appreciated
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File:Eta_Carinae_lightcurve_at_multiple_wavelengths_(1987_-_2014).png
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Great Eruption should be a redirect to this, and bolded in the text.
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oops, yes it is (I was still on autopilot expecting a bot to do that)
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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I always abbreviate to two digits, but some other editors don't. I
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In the Ultraviolet section, the ionization notation changes to Fe.
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Both light curve images updated to fix x-axis formatting problems.
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Thank you. I moved the note up to the first use of the notation.
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Belated query, Cas, but is this a WikiCup entry for you? Cheers,
3142:- all sourcing seems OK in this section. Checked 2, 11, 24, 25. 3034:
I added a new reference to this rearrangement of constellations.
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this article. To be frank, it strikes me as excellent. However:
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Captions that aren't complete sentences shouldn't end in periods
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but found it written as "Colour–colour diagram" also, so changed
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could come out but I think the prose would lose some meaning.
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not helpful either. hydrogen core and hydrogen shell burning
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but tricky when discussed in detail not at first mention...
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tricky - just trying to figure best target. others linked
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this is hard, I tried defining it at first mention, like
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Use of ≈, would this be better to replace with "about"?
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I've added some clarifying text; does this work better?
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Found something and learnt something in the process.
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could be linked from "other extremely luminous stars"
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates
featured article nomination
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured article candidates
Ian Rose
FACBot
talk

Eta Carinae
Lithopsian
Cas Liber
talk
contribs
01:51, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Mike Peel
Hamiltonstone
Cas Liber
talk
contribs
01:51, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Ian Rose
talk
23:44, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Cas Liber
talk
contribs
02:40, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Graeme Bartlett
talk
07:44, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
Cas Liber

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