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I'm not getting any glitch with regards to the first image, and the second one isn't happening now. It just appears to have been something random, and hardly reflects the quality of the article itself.
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Can you go through the account of the story and fix the tone where it becomes overly informal, e.g., "That's the current status. Now onto the mission objective."? How do you negotiate to apologise?
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