191:"Depending on local rules, there may be restrictions on how large the logo may be or on what logos may be displayed. A player's number is usually printed on the back of the shirt, although international teams often also print numbers on the front. Professional teams generally use a squad number system and also print a player's surname above his number. Competitions such as the Premier League may also require players to wear patches on their sleeves depicting the logo of the competition." - a number of short sentences, consider improving the flow of this section.
383:"Blackburn Rovers, for example, adopted halved shirts based on those of the team for former pupils of Malvern College, one of the schools where the sport had developed, but in light blue and white as these were the colours of Cambridge University, where a number of the club's founders had been educated." This is a very long sentence, a reword perhaps?
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173:"it is not unknown, especially at international level, for teams to opt to wear their away kit even when not required to by a clash of colours, or to wear it at home." - any chance of an example, say England's recent penchant for playing in red at Wembley a la 1966?
243:- I haven't specified it in the article, as I don't feel it's especially important and the source doesn't say anyway, but didn't they switch to blue for the second half? They couldn't have switched to red given that they were playing Southampton.......
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I really like it. It's got some great images to support the work, well referenced, and well-written. I just think there will always be some omissions. Whether they're so trivial that they don't need including, I'm not sure. Some examples would
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Probably trivial then. I meant the ones that Lance
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Again sorry for not seeing this at PR. One omission springs to mind re:sponsorship, particularly national sides not having sponsorship and also was it Barca who have refused to have sponsors logo destroy their famous shirts?
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OK, I think/hope I've now addressed all the comments raised above and on the talk page with the exception of national teams not having sponsored shirts - I haven't as yet found a source that discusses this concept.....
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Not overwhelmed by the lead image. I think it'd be a bit better to show a typical footballer perhaps so you have shirt, shorts, socks, boots as a minimum rather than just the jersey? Perhaps swap with the Stevie G
73:- I only discovered this article just over a week ago and was surprised to find out poor it was. I spent last week working on it and it's now approximately ten times longer and, I feel, now up to FA standard....
286:. Stuff what I said weren't right is now. Innit. Great work as always, a pleasure to work with you Chris, keep churning these FA's out and keep involving the community. It's great to be a part of it.
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I've been through and removed what I perceived to be the most glaring
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I'll see if I can find a source for this. I used to have David
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Perhaps expand a bit on exactly why United changed at half time - I seem to recall they were 3-0 down at half-time and "won the second half" 1-0 in their traditional red?
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I gave it a copyedit, adding in some commas, breaking up some sentences. It looks very good, and it reads well. Let me know if there are questions. Good work.
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It's an excellent article. Let me know when you've looked at these comments... Cheers!
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337:"used in the olden days" Bit colloquial isn't it?
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