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Temeraire is in Turner's painting. It would be great to have one of Geoff Hunt's paintings (all under copyright) or Cooke's painting of her as a guardship (I've hunted high and low, and I simply cannot find an accessible version) for the infobox. This makes Turner's the best we have to illustrate the subject in the infobox, and as the immediately identifiable image, is correctly placed prominently at the top of the article. The connection of Temeraire to the painting is an extremely important one, and it makes obvious sense to display the image a second time when discussing the painting in detail towards the end of the article.
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just that the colour accuracy of the turner image currently in the article is not great and that for accuracies sake I wonder if we can do better. The image currently used in the article is far too yellow. The image from the national gallery website has a strange dull caste to it, but I think it could probably be brightened a little bit to improve it and then used as a decent effort at providing an accurate reproduction. - it is on my list of things to get round to at some point - but if you would like me to I can try and upload a brightened copy of that scan which you might prefer to use instead?
731:: I have one or two minor reservations about prose, as there may be a little redundancy in places, but not enough to prevent a support. It may be worth going through and checking if it could be tightened further and I may pick at it a bit myself in the next day or two. Otherwise, the remaining issues are not "deal-breakers". Perhaps make the command structure of the fleet (my point about admirals and rear-admirals above) clearer but maybe I'm being a little dense. My support is not affected by any of these points. --
1514:. The other cited titles all seem correct and relevent, although I haven't checked their ISBNs. I have inserted a couple of remarks re the article elsewhere in this conversation. Incidentally, re SandyGeorgia's remark below, I should add that simply because a book has not been cited within a particular article is no reason for excluding it from a Reference List, if it contains relevent background material which would help a reader to learn more about issues and events described by that article.
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on the national gallery website - though it has no better colours than the current image so I have not uploaded it.) Neither the image currently in the article or the image on the national gallery site are very accurate reproductions of the actual picture imho. I would be concerned that if this article is promoted to FA with the current images it would give an (unintentionally) misleading impression of the Turner painting.
1751:"An 1848 plan of the fleet positions at the Battle of Trafalgar. Temeraire forms part of the weather column, and is depicted abreast of the Victory, racing her for the Franco-Spanish line" because you already have a period here, the second sentence should have a period too. Infobox caption isn't actually a real sentence either, just a title of a painting, so would imagine it shouldn't have a period.
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could be replaced with 'replaced' I suppose, but that is also not an ideal term, given the nature of changing commissions ('replaced' implies to me at least an element of dissatisfaction with the previous commander that meant he was replaced with a better one) and superseded is the term often used in the histories like
Goodwin. But I've no strong objection to it being substituted.
1177:"This Temeraire retained her French name after her capture, and served during the Seven Years' War, before being sold out of the service in 1784. Puget was only in command until 26 July 1799..." the jump here between the two sentence's subjects is jarring - can we move the information about the first Temeraire to a footnote or something?
359:"so committing an act of mutiny. The mutiny eventually failed and a number of the mutineers were tried and executed": Slightly inelegant here with close repetition of mutiny and the similar mutineers. Maybe "…to obey orders. This act of mutiny failed and a number of those responsible were tried and executed".
403:"Her final costs came to £73,241, and included £59,428 spent on the hull, masts and yards, and a further £13,813 on rigging and stores.": I know this can be a controversial subject, but some modern equivalents would be useful here. However, I know some people hate doing that so feel free to ignore this one.
562:"Harvey brought Temeraire around, appearing suddenly out of the smoke of the battle and slipping across Redoutable's stern, discharged a double-shotted broadside into her": The verbs seem a little confused here and should agree. Also, what is "double-shotted"? It should be explained if it is significant.
314:: This is an excellent, thorough article on a very interesting subject. The prose looks good in general and there were very few issues with jargon. As a non-expert, this seems very comprehensive. It is quite long, so I have a list of fairly minor questions and comments. I look forward to supporting. --
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Many thanks. As regards my own cited book, I should point out that the reference quotes the publisher and (wrong) date of the 2nd edition (Seaforth
Publishing, 2008 not 2007) but then confusingly gives the ISBN number of the 1st edition (Chatham Publishing. 2005). The correct ISBN for the 2nd edition
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This is perhaps moving out of the scope of this review. If a better image of the Turner painting can be found and uploaded, then all well and good. As it is, we are using a representative and free use image, the best we have available at the moment. You might wish to talk to some of the image experts
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Hi, I am the only editor (that I know of) currently active editing articles on Turner. I saw this discussion by chance and thought I should mention that I have big reservations about the current Turner image used in the article. (There is a higher resolution scan of "the
Fighting Temeraire" available
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Page and source info added. There are very few historic contemporary images of
Temeraire available, and Turner's painting is not only the most famous, it is also one of the very few that takes as this ship specifically as its subject. She appears in passing in some of the Trafalgar paintings, but the
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I haven't looked over them in detail (apologies for the absence, holidays and all that) but I am sure they are of your usual high standard. I had looked over
Sarastro1's comments previously, and found them generally perfectly reasonable. Thanks for getting to them sooner than I would have! Superseded
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Mutiny: "...court-martialled in two batches aboard HMS Gladiator, anchored in
Portsmouth, the first held on 6 January 1802, the second on 14 January." I think "...court-martialled in two batches aboard HMS Gladiator, anchored in Portsmouth, the first court held on 6 January 1802 and the second on 14
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I'm not sure here on either point. Reading the sentence 'and negotiations for peace were underway at Amiens', I would expect the link here to be to the location. The actual reference to the treaty that was finally negotiated comes several sections later, after the mutiny. So I suppose you could have
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was in command of the ship; an
Admiral (or any other flag officer) was in command of the fleet or squadron, but he (and his staff officers) would be based and quartered (accommodated) upon a ship fitted out as a flagship, from which they would diurect the actions of the entire fleet or squadron. But
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Added the links, and reworded. The tugs were steam powered, so Turner required no extra poignancy there. Incidentally my reference work notes that the tug type only became possible with the application of steam power, so I suppose all tug boats must be, and have been, mechanically propelled in some
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In regards to legal threats I think you are mistaking the national gallery for the
National Portrait Gallery - they are actually different institutions and as far as I know we have never had problems with the national gallery. I am not necessarily objecting to this article becoming featured. It is
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You say that the image on the national gallery's own website is an inaccurate reproduction of the picture it has in its own collections? Given the recent litigation over the use of images from the
National Gallery's website on Knowledge (XXG), I really wouldn't recommend touching it anyway. But can
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Willis is the only book length biography of Temeraire that exists, so inevitably the article relies fairly heavily on that. There are good Temeraire specific sections in Winfield and Goodwin, which are used as well, otherwise Temeraire only appears in passing in the more general naval histories of
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Ack, sorry, I was searching for the term "Biography", and missed it. I have access to the US edition, which is published under the name of "Nelson's Trafalgar: The Battle That Changed the World". It's paginated the same as the UK version, and p. 147 verifies "fighting" vs. "saucy" text, with no
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the period, which have been brought in to develop the picture and provide further support and occasionally some detail for the article. I've looked at the structure and headings, I wouldn't strongly oppose any changes, but nor do I think they are especially necessary, if it is not a deal breaker.
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I am nominating this for featured article because having worked this article up through the GA and A class review stages, I feel this article now meets the necessary criteria. She was one of the most famous ships of the Royal Navy during the age of sail, a fame that endured through the legacy of
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I'm going to be away from tomorrow for some time (likely over a week). I may be able to check in from time to time, but my access might be intermittent, and I will have reduced access to sources. Nevertheless I will do what I can if new issues arise, but it may take a little time.
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This makes the meaning less precise, and fails to distinguish the Royal Dockyard at Sheerness with the civilian docks and shipbuilding concerns there. There should certainly be an article on the dockyard itself, as one of the principle navy bases for several centuries (as with
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AFAIK - I don't think there is any evidence that suggests turner actually saw the scene as depicted. (one biography describes the painting as "a fiction - a superimposition of many ideas and emotion") - but equally no evidence that a steam tug would not have been used.
400:"The initial stages of her construction were overseen by Master Shipwright Thomas Pollard, though he was succeeded by Edward Sison on 25 June 1795, and Sison oversaw her completion.": Maybe cut this back to "…Thomas Pollard and completed by his successor Edward Sison".
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Sources use 'the Marine Society' consistently in reference to this period, and in the sources used here (Willis, Winfield, College, Goodwin, etc). 'The Marine Society' appears to be a modern construction, which the society is rather anachronistically backdating.
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Ok, I agree that it would be better to get someone who is more experienced in this area to consider the issue. I'll upload the NG scan as an alternate image and get the image desk magicians to see how they can improve it without affecting the integrity of the
627:"Temeraire rode out the storm following the battle, sometimes being taken in tow by less damaged ships, sometimes riding at anchor.": It is not quite clear here whether the ship was fit to move on its own or was it too damaged to sail by itself?
759:"Eyles was superseded during this period by Temeraire's former commander, Captain Puget, who resumed command on 14 October 1799, ": Does this mean "Eyles was replaced on 14 October 1799 by Temeraire's former commander, Captain Puget,"? - Dank (
375:"The painting was greeted with critical acclaim, which has endured": Again not sure about the phrasing. Maybe "… with critical acclaim. The painting continues to be held in high regard and was voted Britain's favourite painting in 2005".
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As very much a non-specialist with a vague interest in the historical period, I got a little confused here knowing how the command structure worked; we are told about Rear-Admirals and Admirals, captains and commanders. If the
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372:"Further service saw her move to Sheerness": Not convinced about this use of "saw", but I appreciate the need to avoid repeating sentence structures. I can't think of anything better at the moment, and it's not a huge issue.
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Tricky, there is no direct translation. "Temeraire means nothing in English; an indistinct mix of rash and recklessness, it carries none of the undertones of foolhardiness that those words imply in English." Willis, p. 55.
1608:. Are better links possible on each? All I get is the main page of the museum, the same for both. Also, on the Harvey image, can you do better on the image page in terms of the author? "Brown" is what is listed now.--
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File:Turner,_J._M._W._-_The_Fighting_Téméraire_tugged_to_her_last_Berth_to_be_broken.jpg is tagged as lacking source info, and the description page appears to have been vandalized. Also, does this image need to be used
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Okay, I see you're using "superseded" in the same sense in the next paragraph. Cambridge Dictionaries defines it as: "to replace something, especially something older or more old-fashioned". I'll check
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you be more specific, what makes it an inaccurate reproduction? Finally, this is not a FA review for the picture itself, I'm not sure how far these comments have weight for the FA-review process.
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Construction: "...was a 98-gun second-rate ship of the line of the..." in the lead but "...had been the 74-gun third rate HMS Temeraire, a former..." - so are we hyphenating the rate or not?
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Were the tugs steam-powered?. Interesting to know if Turner's depiction is correct or if he heightened the contrast and poignancy by using a steam-powered sidewheele tug in the painting.--
962:. I'm not entirely sure what level of tweaking of the colours of historic images and paintings by wikipedia users is considered permissible, there may be OR issues or similar to consider.
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a piped link over 'negotiations for peace' as a nod to the treaty that would eventually be signed, but it would perhaps be a little misleading to link Amiens there in this context.
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Not a big issue, but some of the sections could possibly be combined and I'm not a huge fan of having Temeraire in so many titles, but I would not insist on either of these points
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Retirement: "...under the title 'Guardship of the Ordinary and Captain-Superintendent's ship of the Fleet Reserve in the Medway'." Shouldn't these be double quotation marks?
353:"Her duties were tedious and seldom relieved by any action with the French fleet." I doubt that the ship could find it tedious; maybe clarify this to "tedious for the crew…"
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References: 52 out of 83 references are to Willis. This is probably inevitable so I personally have no problem with it as this will undoubtedly be the best reference. --
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was the flagship, how did this affect its operation? And who was in command of it, the admiral or the rear-admiral. I think this could all be made slightly clearer.
559:"to prevent colliding with": "to prevent a collision with" may be more elegant but has been used shortly after. But as it stands it seems a bit of an ugly phrase.
1392:: Benea, have you had a spotcheck for accuracy in representation of sources and close paraphrasing on a previous FAC? If so, pls link-- if not, still pending.
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I don't think "bashed" is an improvement and have modified this to "was staved in". You may prefer "stove" but I think "staved" sounds more elegant here. --
518:"was thwarted in his attempt to unite with the French forces at Brest": Not sure about the use of unite here. Perhaps "join" or "combine" would be better.
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close paraphrasing. "Most famous" isn't cited there, not a quibble, and the rest of that text is apparent from the painting. That's all I can do :)
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Is it Treaty or Peace of Amiens? Could confuse a non-expert that you've used both terms but linked to the same article each time.
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1143:"She was converted to a prison ship, spending until 1819 moored in the River Tamar in this role." Awkward - needs rewording.
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it is not used to cite anything (??)-- should probably be removed from Reference list, but I'm wondering why it's not used?
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Perhaps something along the lines of: "Because of the drawdown in the size of the active navy as a result of the peace..."
410:) 23:39, 27 December 2011 (UTC) P.S. For anyone who's interested, there are a couple of links to extensive discussions at
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Fair enough, but would prefer it to be a redlink than to just link to Sheerness as that makes the meaning less precise.
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I've seen it, but in BritEng articles, we're usually hyphenating Vice-Admiral but not Rear Admiral. Done. - Dank (
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form. 'Thames Steam Towing Company' did it for me, but I've altered it to 'steam tugs' in the article as well.
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when I get home to make sure, but "supersede" would not be my preferred word choice here. - Dank (
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Thanks ... perhaps you could encourage a MilHist person to dig in and get that part done :)
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748:. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. Please check the edit summaries. - Dank (
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Thanks Sarastro. Benea, I'll work on these tomorrow unless you tell me otherwise. - Dank (
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The NMM has very recently overhauled its website. I've updated the links.
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Adkins, Roy (2005). Trafalgar: The Biography of a Battle. London: Abacus.
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Usually this means that the location in the references could be linked. --
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I would expect that he would at least be able to confirm his own book :)
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Several examples of "with noun verbing" e.g. "with the flames spreading"
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Is using the same image twice conventional in an featured article?
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I went with: "She was converted to a prison ship and moored in the
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One reference is correctly to the Treaty, the other to the Peace.
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The start of the second paragraph perhaps uses "fleet" too much.
1232:"Rear-Admiral"? I don't think I've ever seen this hyphenated...
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Okay, no problem, our own article could use some attention...!
1895:"Marine Society" looks like it should be "The Marine Society".
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from 3 headings and left it in 2; feel free to revert. - Dank (
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may be better, or "won/achieved public renown after the battle"
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And I pinged Rif Winfield, since he surely has the sources :)
1281:, some on 6 January 1802 and the rest on 14 January." - Dank (
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Good point about "replaced". People might suggest wording at
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Yeesh, sorry I missed so much on this one, spot on. - Dank (
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1839:, etc). I may get around to writing one if I have time.
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There were no spotchecks at the A-class review. - Dank (
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Fixed these myself; I don't think there are any more. --
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569:; it means twice as much shot was used. - Dank (
253:Hodder & Stoughton or Hodder and Stoughton?
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1867:I can't really see how that is. The link is to
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232:Fixed the one example (Gardiner) I could see.
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