693:, I don't believe I removed the other one, if I did I will restore and apologise. I'm sorry, as far as I know the place for article discussion is the talk page, where ongoing participation of all involved editors, ongoing RfC's etc is possible. I have no objection to your specific points, however FaC is being used by Imeldific to 'sneak edit' in order to bypass the talk processes on certain key issues.
863:"Her claimed fortune came from Yamashita's gold, a semi-mythical treasure trove that is widely believed in the Philippines to be part of the Japanese loot in World War II" - what total and utter rubbish. The money is believed to have come from corruption with many reliable sources being available to attest to this (eg,
848:" She purchased property in Manhattan in the 1980s, including the US$ 51 million Crown Building, the Woolworth Building in 40 Wall Street, and the US$ 60 million Herald Centre. She declined to buy the Empire State Building because she felt it was "too ostentatious." - where did the money for this come from?
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given in the article ("intended to address hunger by encouraging the people to plant produce in household gardens") is entirely different from the article linked. I'm not sure whether this is because the article is referring to something else also called the Green revolution, or whether the article
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This article fails FA criterion 1b as it is much too short to provide adequate coverage of Marcos' life and 1d as it's non-neutral. It also fails 1c as many of the works in the biography are self-published, and no serious attempt appears to have been made to consult good quality works on
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There are various references to books without specifying page number/chapter/anything which would help a reader find the claim which is being cited. Currently to (in order of appearance) Garcia (1969), Garcia (2016), Pedrosa (2013), Sagmayoa (1986), Kumar (2004), Pedrosa (2016). Could the pages
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This article is about... Imelda Marcos, the former First Lady of the
Philippines and current congresswoman. She is famous for her shoe collection and her marriage to former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos. During her time as First Lady, she traveled the world met with world leaders and buy
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I'd like to see more detail, especially about Marcos' role as first lady. The article says that she was
Minister for Human Settlements, but only gives very brief details about what she did in that role. The comments on her role as ambassador basically just say that she made lots of powerful
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Corazon was installed as president. After her husband's death, she returned to the Philippines": make it "after her husband's death, Marcos returned", otherwise it appears that the article is referring to Corazon
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friends, which I'm sure is true, but she must have done other things with greater historical significance than go out to dinner with the Nixons! Her involvement in the Libyan peace treaty, for instance, must have more to say about it than simply that it happened.
791:-- I'm going to archive this nom and recommend that all interested parties work on improvements outside the FAC process and try for another peer review before considering a re-nomination. A few pieces of advice in passing, based on a quick scan:
845:"Her role in the presidency was controversial partly because she was involved in altercations with celebrities" - not really. She's controversial for being half of a dictatorial couple and allegedly being involved in very large scale corruption
673:). Thank you for putting one of my two fixes back. That leaves one more to put back. Why are y'all having parallel discussions on the talk page? You need to unify. Bring your constructive comments and constructive criticism over here. Cheers!
860:"The exact number of her shoes varies with estimates of up to 7,500 pairs. However, Time reported that the final tally was only 1,060" - why is the 1986 Time story being privileged over the 2006 CNN story which provides a higher figure?
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Firstly, I am pleased to see that many of the problems I had with the article in its previous candidacy (and one that I didn't raise, but noticed) have been fixed. I haven't yet gone through the article properly, but a few comments:
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history of the Marcos era. Marcos has been an internationally-known and highly controversial figure for decades, yet the article has only 30 kb of prose text, and quickly passes over major details. For instance:
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Pincrete actually fixed
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Are we having arguments between nominator and other significant editors? If so, please spare everyone the headache and withdraw nomination now – resolve your probs before coming here. Thanks.
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851:"While her husband began to suffer from lupus erythematosus, she effectively ruled in his place" - from what dates, and what did she do as the (effectively) acting president?
857:"Ferdinand created the Agrava Commission, a fact-finding committee, to investigate her, ultimately finding her not guilty." - did this commission have any legitimacy?
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