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107:, she was actually a publisher, writer and editor. A tragically short lifeβ€”she died at the age of 28β€”her impact has lasted over 150 years and her book has never been out of print, although she is much maligned by some modern writers. This has been through a hugely productive and constructive PR and is ready for FAC consideration. All constructive comments are welcome. – 270:
known to generations of late-19th and early/middle-20th century women was far removed from and inferior to the version put together by Isabella – Christopher Driver's phrase "progressive debasement", quoted in the main text, seems very much to the point – and I think the lead ought to make it clear
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The caption in the lead image, "Beeton, c. 1854", is a little too terse for my liking, and as she didn't marry Beeton until July 1856 she wasn't actually Beeton then. Your other captions are more generous; I recommend an extension to: "Isabella Beeton, nΓ©e Mayson, photographed in about 1854" – or
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I may be pernickety, but is it accurate to describe Elizabeth David as a "cook"? Cookery writer, certainly, but did she ever earn her living slaving over a hot stove? I'm a bit dubious, too, about the badger-munching Dickson Wright, though she did sort of cook, as a so-called "celebrity
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was a poor and misguided version of Isabella's original. That apart, I have nothing but praise for this article, which I much enjoyed rereading. I shall support its promotion anyway, but I hope SchroCat will consider including the above point in the lead. –
353:– I had the pleasure of reading this article as a result of my involvement at the peer review a week or so ago. My comments there were all swiftly dealt with and I'm happy to support this culinary delight. 244:
Many thanks Nikkimaria. All now sorted per the above. re your last point, I've gone for chronological order - oldest first. I think I've got these all. Cheers -
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from Tim riley: As a generally v. happy reviewer from the peer review I have only one quibble now: I still think the lead ought to reflect the fact that the
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Josh, many thanks indeed for your thoughts and comments at PR, and the subsequent prose tweaks. Your input has been much appreciated. Cheers –
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Many thanks Brian: those last couple of tweaks now made and I thank you for them, and youe earlier suggestions. Cheers -
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Many thanks indeed for the prose review at PR and your subsequent re-read – all very much appreciated indeed. Cheers –
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Authors with the same last name but different first names should have the first person alphabetically placed first
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Article looks in good shape for FA, many comments seems ot have been addressed at PR. Excellent job!♦
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Many thanks Tim for your thoughts and comments both here and at the very productive PR. I hope
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Beeton or Isabella? You use the former for the first image but the latter for the second image
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has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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Check for consistency in wikilinking - for example, OUP is linked in FN114 but not 102
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Many thanks Chris: the Bhm title image has now been tweaked to clarify. Cheers -
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Many thanks Cass - your thoughts on the PR were very much appreciated. Cheers -
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Make sure captions that are not sentences do not end with periods (Cheapside).
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was a remarkable woman. Although thought of as a cook, based on her 1861 work
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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How are you ordering multiple works by the same author?
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Knowledge:Featured article candidates
featured article nomination
Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates
Ian Rose
FACBot
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Isabella Beeton
SchroCat
talk
14:25, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Isabella Beeton
Mrs Beeton's Book of Household Management
SchroCat
talk
14:25, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
File:Isabella Mary Beeton.jpg
File:Cheapside and Bow Church engraved by W.Albutt after T.H.Shepherd publ 1837 edited.jpg
File:Epsom New Race Stand – 1829.jpg
File:Samuel Orchart Beeton.jpg
File:Edmsept1861.jpg
File:WNC Beeton.JPG
File:Bhm title.jpg
File:Isabella Beeton.jpg
Chris Woodrich
talk
14:40, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
SchroCat
talk
08:43, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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