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and this one never came up, only his separate 5-page RAN record. Apart from that, I'll preface my response by saying that I prefer not to use NAA records unless absolutely necessary, practically because the links are often flaky, and idealistically because I think an encyclopedia ought not rely on primary sources – though admittedly many MilHist bios do use these things (I have myself on occasion) and of course the
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are primary sources so it could be argued they’re just as accurate as one another. What all this is saying is that he simultaneously held three ranks in three services at once: Lieutenant in the RAN, Flight Lieutenant (temporary) in the RAAF, and Flying Officer (temporary) in the RAF. Frankly I have
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Thanks Gnan, sorry for not replying earlier but there was a lot to go through there, as you know. Funnily enough, I checked for digital personnel records on Hewitt in NAA not that long ago with the express purpose of double-checking dates and seeing if there was anything vital I didn’t already have,
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I tried the switch but the "As a result..." statement didn't seem to flow that way. Also it's really only Kenney among his contemporaries who had an opinion after the fact - the preceding stuff is more the machinations of the transfer itself, along with modern historians' perspective. Happy to
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Another Air Marshal, another interesting character... Let this one sit at GA/A-Class for a while but now added new material to round out and clarify what was there, particularly in early career, and hopefully remembered all the MOS updates since it passed those early milestones. For those who
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is ubiquitous for citing decorations. On the other hand, I’d always check to ensure that my secondary and tertiary sources aren’t actually contradicted by the file, which is exactly what you’ve done here, so pls see below... Cheers,
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no problem losing the RAF commission bit if you think it confuses things, as I don’t find it that interesting, but short of that I don’t know that anything would need changing in this article because of it. Cheers,
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Take your point but that would result in two consecutive sentences with exactly the same citation, and given recent discussion on 'over-citing' at the FAC talk page there might also be objections to that... Cheers,
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and Odgers in the Official History) all say that he was sacked in November. I think it’s reasonable for both dates to be correct, as he would’ve had to remain at his post for a short while before being replaced.
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I think "General Kenney considered Hewitt's removal "bad news"." Should be switched with the sentence preceding it, with the rest of the sentences presenting reaction to Hewitt's removal.
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I’m not sure that the temporary commission he held in the RAF contradicts anything in his RAAF personnel file and, after all, both the file and the
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that does sound good because I'd expect someone really interested in Hewitt would ask the same question of why the descrepency of 1 month.
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Interesting article, I spent some time checking details against his service record(241 pages one of the longest I've read) available from
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which ever way go with these I can now see the why in the wording so I have no issue with supporting this one.
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Flight Officer 30.Jan.1923, (honary Flt Lieutenant while on loan from RAN to RAAF 1923 service record pg 233)
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I think a clarifier that your referring to a RAF rank, because thats what I couldnt differentiate
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The quote "reservedly pleased about the publicity" should have a reference immediately after it.
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With the exception of the above, the dates in the article correspond to his service record.
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reviewed earlier, more anecdotes await such as what he did to miss out on commanding
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don't go into that level of detail, and he's one of the many odd omissions from the
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This article is outstanding in every respect and easily meets the FA criteria.
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maybe a RAF rank can you clarify, service record pg89 states promotions to;
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Not among my sources, unfortunately. The dedicated entries on him in
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Flt lieutenant 3.apr.1928,(also the date he transferred to the RAAF)
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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he was controversially removed from his post in mid-November 1943
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4 May 1925, holding a temporary commission as a Flying Officer;
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discuss further though, in case I've missed the point. Cheers,
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on the eve of World War II, and how a certain section of the
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service record pg90 states AOC 9OG 15.feb.42 to 17.Dec.43
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in April 1945, but didn’t leave until his replacement,
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Thanks for your review/comments. This is done. Cheers,
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