535:"Traits shared by O. hammondi and Oecomys included: tail unicolored, with the same coloration above and below; parietal bones extending to the sides of the skull; zygomatic plate narrow, without a zygomatic notch; posteroloph present on upper third molar; mesoflexus (a valley in the molar crown in front of the mesoloph crest) on upper second molar not divided in two." Needs tweaking to make more grammatical; I'm thinking specifically about the fragments like "zygomatic plate narrow" and "tail uncoloured"
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Thanks for the review. I continue to write articles for those articles (though at a slow pace); I think they deserve articles and therefore also links from here. However, I found out that I had done some inefficient linking and was able to get rid of a few of the red links in the skull description.
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To summarise - the article represents a huge challenge in accessibility to the lay reader of a stack of highly technical information, however meaning cannot be lost. I can't see what else can be done in this regard, but I do feel the scientist name issue will make the prose a little smoother.
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I think for a lay reader, names of scientists read much better if they are (first name surname) at first instance (and then surname), rather than all their initials. I have changed the ones I can see, but the others would be good. If you really prefer initials, I won't stop you
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Well, there is a picture of the skull. I continue to improve our anatomical articles related to the rodents I describe. The characters I describe inform what is inferred about its relationships, the most prominent theme in what has been written about it.
1043:. The former, thus, shouldn't be using a license with the "self" variant, as the "I, the copyright holder of this work..." then refers to the creator of the derivative, who does not hold the copyright (this is a very minor housekeeping issue).
201:- no dab links, a couple of domain changes in external links. Question re alt text: the text for the map reads "a red mark in northwestern Ecuador and a blue mark in eastern Ecuador" - are the dots misplaced, or is there an error in the alt text?
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I think this is a concise yet clear way to list such characters. Recasting those into full sentences would make the text more lengthy without really enhancing the reader's understanding. I tweaked a little,
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Ah, I see! That explains a lot :) Don't suppose there's any way to make the borders slightly more visible so people like me can not sound crazy? Apologies for the confusion...
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I do think it's important that even the details of the alt text are right. But I hope there'll be some reviewers soon who also address the other aspects of the article. :)
1004:- Image is apparently from a PhD thesis. I'm not entirely convinced that it would be reasonable to expect that copyright registration, if any, would be reported in the
409:"Formerly associated with Nectomys, Sigmodontomys, Megalomys, or Oryzomys, it is now placed in its own genus, Mindomys" please clarify what is meant by "associated with"
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Thanks for the review and improvements in the prose! I changed the two remaining instances of initials and glossed "monophyletic" with "coherent".
546:"Various crests develop on the long braincase" what's the rationale for using the word braincase instead of skull (to which the link redirects)?
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I recast the entire sentence; the passive voice was unnecessary.
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My issues were addressed. This is a very interesting article.
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