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3810:"No Line on the Horizon debuted at number one in 30 countries, including Australia, Belgium, Canada, France, Ireland, Japan, the Netherlands, Portugal, the United Kingdom, and the United States. As of June 2009 over five million copies had been sold worldwide. Within one week of release, the album was certified platinum in Brazil, a record for the country. In the United Kingdom, the album became U2's tenth number-one album, making them the fifth-most-successful act on the UK Albums Chart. In the United States, it was U2's seventh number-one album; first-week sales exceeded 484,000, the band's second-highest figures after How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb." 3635:"The film originated from a U2 video shoot in June 2007, during which Corbijn asked the band to remain still while he filmed them to create a "photograph on film"; the band did not move but the objects around them did. Impressed, the band believed that the online album listening experience could be enhanced with moving imagery. In May 2008, they commissioned Corbijn to create the film." - I found this confusing; the film originated in June 2007, yet it was not commissioned until May 2008. Would it be accurate to begin instead, "The 385:
know of any FA article on a song or album which does not contain cover artwork. The common sense consensus appears to be that album artwork is an instance where fair-use images are acceptable, and I would say that their removal is definitely reaching well past that fine balance. I do not plan on removing the image on the article, but will leave it up to all of the other reviewers to determine for themselves if the inclusion of the album artwork in the article is acceptable or not.
3849:"Conflicting tenses: switches from past to present part way through "U2 staged a worldwide stadium tour ... the tour included ... concerts feature ... audience surrounds ... the concert stage is". It's akin to the forthcoming album problem (which has now been addressed above): planned in the past, but ongoing now. The switch surprises the reader with the realization that it's not something in the past being discussed after all. Probably needs recasting one way or the other. 824:
a detailed prose review by the middle of the week—with specific, easily-actionable comments—I'll try to have another run through. One thing: I disagree with Tony's comment about the opening passage; IMO, it's more idiomatic to say "of U2's career" than "since U2's inception". Plus, the latter (very, very faintly) implies there was a longer gap, way back when. So whom do you listen to? Rock, meet hard place. :-D (I'll have a think on it and try to come up with a third way.)
3664:"In February 2009, Bono stated that by the end of the year U2 would release an album consisting of discarded material from the No Line on the Horizon sessions. Bono labelled it "a more meditative album on the theme of pilgrimage". Provisionally titled Songs of Ascent, it will be a sister release ..." - confusing, because we start the sentence with the impression that this is something that happened over a year ago, yet we segue into "it will be" and so forth. 2044:—album cover in infoxbox. Although I'm sympathetic to Fasach Nua's view above—indeed, I respect his/her position a lot—current consensus is that non-free album artwork is suitable for identification of the subject where a free version is unavailable. Wider community consultation is needed to overturn that seeming consensus; as such, individual FACs are not the place to have this discussion. 3516:
critics noted that the album was not as experimental as previously suggested." Can U2's original statement be brought out more clearly? It seems like an incidental remark, so the connection is not immediate when we arrive at what the critics note at the end. The specific term that applied in this case (pre-release publicity, announcement or whatever) rather than "said" would help.
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review. Personally I like those boxes because they put an album in its immediate historical context. But, as I say, you have to argue for them all or for none at all. If the adjacent albums had succession boxes I would strongly argue that this album should have one too, otherwise we're messing with people who want to navigate through a chronological procession of album articles. --
3613:. I've reworded it to "At the end of the sessions, the band chose to include "White as Snow", a song about a dying soldier in Afghanistan, to balance out the earlier, rockier tunes", though I know this now means there is some repetition. Since it is sourced below, I haven't bothered to use the ref again. Do you think the change helps to provide the needed context? 1926:: I'm a bit nonplussed by the citations style, which consist in most cases of a deadlink on the title, followed by an archive link to the item in question. I have not encountered this method before. What is the purpose of retaining the deadlink? I notice, incidentally, that the live link in Ref. 1 goes to a subscription service, which should be noted. 3883: 1753:: the artist will make a lot more money off the tour than they will off the album. If anything, making an album gives an artist an excuse to stage a big tour. Unless there's a source saying that when the tour visited certain countries there was a significant spike in album sales, this term should go. 3998:
Thanks for the support and for the suggestion. I've added the sentence "The record was not a commercial success for U2, and the group expressed disappointment at the low sales" after the critical reception part in the lead. If you disliked "Moment of Surrender", why not give "Breathe" or "Fez - Being
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I think that I've addressed all of the hidden questions now. They were definitely limited editions according to the source, so I've removed the word 'considered'. I've done several searches but haven't found any updated sales numbers as of yet that can be included. All that I've seen are forum posts,
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Very strange; for some reason the archiveurl is missing from the template, but it is there in a previous revision from 9 May. I am having no difficulty in opening the page and displaying the content, so I have restored the archive. I believe that the reason it went down (and is continuing to do so on
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field is missing, they display the information in a different order (especially dates) to how they do when the field is filled. Where news and journal articles don't have an author, and where possible, I tend to fill the field with "Staff" to produce a consistent output. This isn't a deal-breaker, by
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In the tour section, I strongly disagree with the use of 'supporting', in both the section title (just call it "360° Tour") and in the text. As the article alludes to briefly, the notion of a tour supporting an album is a vestige of an industry era gone by. Nowadays for established acts it's almost
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Just looking at the "Reception" section, I have several concerns. The box's review ratings are very U.S.-UK centric – 9 from them and 1 from Ireland. U2 is a band with global appeal, so what about the rest of the world? Continental Europe, Asia, South America? Even if you don't translate a review
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I've added the year to the singles table; when the fourth single is released, I'll add a year column to the left-side to make it easier. I disagree with your point on the certifications though. Most album articles I've looked at have them, and I think they are an important component relating to their
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Really? In a FAC nomination for a music album, someone is objecting to an image of the album cover? If someone is going to review an album FAC nomination, the least they can do is review previous music FA articles to familiarize themselves with standards/things that are acceptable. The album cover is
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I do not know of any pop album that doesn't contain a FU low res image of the album cover, whether they are featured articles or not. However, I've never done a survey so I'd be happy to have them pointed out. Have you had this discussion before on album covers, either about a specific album, or more
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Re-reading this idea, I think it is bordering a bit too far on the optimistic scale for the simple reason that so much of it seems to require a great deal of original research. I've been searching since this was posted close to a week ago, but I have found absolutely nothing on why the setlist order
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Hi. I think Tony is probably right in that certain sections will need a polish. All I really did was smooth out some of the bumpier parts, hopefully leaving few enough passages-with-issues that anything specific could be resolved during the FAC. I still stand by that, but if no-one's chipped in with
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on this), which I believe now means that the article meets all of the FAC criteria. Do you agree? Disagree? Just felt like dropping by to laugh at a badly written nomination? Whatever your reason for stopping by and reading this, I hope that the article proves an interesting and thorough read on the
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gang just over a year ago. Both previous FAC nominations seemed to fail primarily as a result of the lack of reviews; what was brought up at those times (as well as the GAN and three peer reviews) has been addressed as well as my editing schedule on Knowledge permits. In recent days it has undergone
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There isn't a great deal of information under the singles heading anyways so what I have done is removed the heading and renamed the subsection to "Promotion and singles". I considered "Singles and promotion", but given that there is a great deal more info on the promotional aspect than the singles
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Previously the link on the title was removed, leaving only the archive link. However, we were told to reinstate them (can't find where now) because there are times when the archive website has problems/goes down (such as is occuring today as a result of maintenance on the website), and so the links
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In the tour section, you should briefly mention what role the album's songs play in the show. A block of new songs opened the show in Europe, but that was broken up somewhat in the U.S., was it due to audience restlessness? Was the total number of 'new album' songs comparable to previous tours or
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or some such similar project to either do this or not do this everywhere. It can't be done on an article-by-article basis. Also, I don't think referencing should be an issue – it's up to each individual article to cite that it was a number one album on a given chart, and the boxes just link these
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After conversing with a few other users I can see the reasoning behind Fasach Nua's stance a bit more clearly, but I do (and will continue) to disagree with it. Yes, non-free content should be kept to a minimum, but there is a fine balance between reaching that minimum and going beyond it. I do not
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Personally, I don't like Fair Use, but I do not see this as a reason to fail an FAC as fair use in this context has broad acceptance. Agree with Y2kcrazyjoker that this FAC is not the place to discuss the merits, or otherwise, of fair use images on album pages as it has wikipedia wide implications.
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was changed, what role the songs play, or comparisons with previous tours. Any major adjustments that I could make along the lines suggested would be so far up the OR lane that it would be unreasonable to make them; the only exceptions are the current tour gross and the number of songs on the DVD.
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Looking more at the Tour section (I'd omit the "U2" in the section title, it's kind of redundant given the context), it should be focused on the tour's relationship to the album, not be a summary of the tour. Thus this sentence is irrelevant here: "The idea for the stage, with some initial design
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I'll do another search, but despite my best efforts previous this is one thing I've never been able to find. It seems near impossible to find sales data released by the companies. We can assume it's at least 1,000,000 since it was certified Platinum, but those figures are as of late last year. The
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My only niggle is whether the lead is an adequate summary of the article - feel free to make it a little longer, perhaps with a sentence or two more on critical reception / charting / commercial outcome. The article looks comprehensive, though, and well-sourced. Haven't heard this album - thought
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In the lead: "Prior to the album's release, U2 said that Eno's and Lanois's involvement, as well as the band's time in Fez, Morocco, resulted in a more experimental record than their previous two albums. Upon its release, No Line on the Horizon received generally favourable reviews, although many
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in the past). I was a bit confused by your last question regarding the size of the tour's stage; I've tried to clarify the sentence as best I can by explicitly referring to it as a concert stage and providing a reason for the design. Anything else that I could put in (such as the sound systems in
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Comment: This is a characteristic of the templates. The whole idea of using them is to just put in the relevant information about a cite and let the template writers worry about formatting them consistently. Even if the writers aren't doing the job well at the moment (to which I agree), inserting
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In terms of the album's commercial appeal, the article seems to be overweighing the positive (stressing initial sales and chart placements) and underweighing the negative (overall sales and lack of a hit single). As a result, the last paragraph about low album sales, is jarring to read after all
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to all of the points you've brought up about the lead. I did ask a few people if they would be able to do a copyedit before I nominated, but they seemed to think that the current prose is acceptable (and my eyes are so saturated from this article that I doubt I'd see anything no matter how hard I
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used to identify the subject of the article, just like in every other FA album article. The argument that the cover could be removed and simply be described with prose in its place can be made for any image ever made. These types of objections are not constructive to passing/failing this article.
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I went through in a previous FAC and substituted all of the primary sources I was able to then. I'll do another search now to replace ones that have been added in since that time, such as the YouTube cite. In some cases though, such as the "Long, Drawn out Confession" page, the "U2ube" videos by
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though. It's noted on the talk page (I think in the archives) that the present breakdown of reviews reflects the Metcritic average (72) fairly closely, and I'm hesitant about adding in lower ratings from less known sources at the expense of higher ratings from well known sources for that reason.
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Whoah, wait... succession boxes are part of a chain. If all other #1 albums have them this will be a broken link. So the argument shouldn't be whether there's a succession box on this article but whether either they should ALL go or whether they should ALL stay which is outside the scope of this
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Since it may prove to be contentious and I can't find any demonstration of reliability, I have removed it. This also unfortunately means that I have had to remove the certifications for Ireland and Italy, since neither IRMA or FIMI provide searchable databases that I can find. As a result I've
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Recording and production: "In January 2007, lead singer Bono said U2 intended to take their next album in a different musical direction to their previous few releases." Not saying that the grammar here is wrong, but a more common way of putting it would be "in a different direction from their
3598:'At the end of the sessions, the band chose to include "White as Snow" to balance out the earlier, rockier tunes. With the exception of this track, U2 had tried to keep the theme of war out of the album.' - we aren't told that "White as Snow" has a war theme until the later 467:
Sort of strange phrasing here. One place they were recording was a studio, the other was the southern half of a country. If the source gives a more detailed location for where they were recording, you should probably include it here. (If it doesn't, there's not much you can
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I've done my best to integrate the position of the songs during the concerts in both legs (though it required the use of a primary source; see Steve's comments below). I can't see how I can do any more on this front without delving into OR. 2009 gross has also been added.
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Guidelines are nothing more than advice on how to do things, the policy is much more important, the guideline refers to criteria one of the policy only. The image can be easily be described with text, and the reference you have given is more than an adequate description
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At the end of the Rick Rubin section the article reads " subsequently employed Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois as principal producers and co-writers. Steve Lillywhite was also brought in to produce a few of the tracks." Do you think producer be slipped in there to clarify?
3266:""Winter" appears in the accompanying Anton Corbijn film, Linear and the 2009 war film Brothers." Hate to be pedantic on the punctuation, but there should either be another comma after "Linear" or none at all in the sentence. Personally, I don't know if one is needed. 880:
Formats table—I suggest removing this entirely. Albums are normally released in a variety of formats; the way you have them listed here is like a shopping catalogue that would interest only the avid collector. At best it can be summarised in two more sentences of
3209:- Have to admit I've read over it a few times because of past mentions on certain talk pages, and I think it's finally at a level where it's ready for FA. I applaud the efforts of MelicansMatkin for sticking with it and writing an excellent article. 2927:
of cites to primary sources to verify information such as when the album was released on particular formats; although these are (generally) accepted, it would preferable to find secondary sources where possible for as many as you can, especially the
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each of the four legs, each individual system alone powerful enough for an arena concert, etc.) would probably be overly technical for an article on the album and is easily found on the Tour page. I hope this clarifies all three of your questions.
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True, but after it's done, and once an article's structure is more stable (usually closer to the end of the FAC), it's very easy to keep on top of it. Post-FAC, the content won't be changing anywhere near enough to make it an annoyance to update.
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looked!). I think I'll leave the "Moment of Surrender" sound sample as is for the moment since it does comply with the length standards; if the length does become an issue then it shouldn't be too difficult to reduce it by a couple of seconds.
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songs, good bad or indifferent. Also, bring the section up-to-date: the tour grosses for 2009 are available, and how it ranked for the year. How many HD cameras were used for the Rose Bowl shoot is irrelevant here; instead focus on how many
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Thanks for the feedback thus far. I'll be fairly busy with work over the next week or so, so it may take me a bit longer than usual to respond to any further comments or concerns (though I'll do my best to get to them as quickly as possible).
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Reception: Not a big deal at all, but I found it a bit odd that How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb has a link at the start of the fourth paragraph of this section when it's unlinked toward the end of the third. I would consider moving that
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After a few days of searching I haven't found anything from continental Europe, Asia, or Oceania (foreign or English language) which assigns a star rating that can be included. I'm afraid it looks like we're stuck with what we've got.
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lists with it as one of the top-selling albums (albeit minus sales figures, even in the original press release by the IFPI), and stats by mediatraffic.de (which as part of the United World Chart is considered unreliable according to
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I honestly can't remember where it was, just that it hppened; it was a half-year ago at least, but I can't find it on my talk or in the previous FACs/PRs/GAN. It may have been on another user's talk page, but I can't recall where.
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Many thanks for all your contributions and for your support; I'll try to address the hidden comments on the morrow if I can find anything for them (as it's close to midnight right now and I need to be up fairly early). Cheers,
1608:, despite whatever that sloppy Reuters story says: "It was their seventh number one album in the United States, placing them third behind The Beatles and the Rolling Stones for the most number one albums in the country." See 3192:- It may be worth noting some of the common musical motifs (however few) that appear throughout the record. For example, the electronic flourishes that Eno contributed to the record and were much ballyhooed prior to release. 2016:
This is another nicely done album article from the nominator. Any comments, suggestions, prose and content issues I've covered in edit summaries and hidden comments while performing a light copyedit over the last week or so.
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Yes, this was something that I'd looked at before the last peer review. None of the sources that I could find said what the exact recording location in France was, so I think that we're unfortunately stuck on this point.
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I won’t pretend this is a comprehensive list of source questions/issues; however, successful resolution (or rebuttal!) of these will make further examination easier, and hopefully all that'll I'll spot is the odd typo.
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Current ref no. 30, "Long, Drawn Out Confession": the note about the subscription implies this is a video interview; it should probably say outright, and also include the names of the interviewer and interviewees.
3890:. I share the author of that manual's dislike of these, but believe MoS is silent on the matter, so I will leave it with you to decide whether to do anything about it; if so, the choices appear to be (a) make 1506:
The article doesn't say how many copies have been sold in the U.S. so far; if you give first week sales, you should give the rest (artists with devoted followings often get big initial sales but then tail off
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suggestions, had been proposed to the group by the set designer, Willie Williams, at the end of the Vertigo Tour in 2006." Instead, see if you can incorporate tour show reviews that assessed the role of the
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I've added one or two reviews, but it's proving very difficult to find any in continental Europe and Asia with a star system. One that I did add from Spain was removed just a few minutes ago for that reason.
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In the Songs of Ascent section, I doubt if the Achtung Baby link is necessary, considering there's already one just a little bit up in the text. Interested readers will have likely already clicked on that
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It is the cover art; kind of necessary for it to be included in the article. It qualifies as fair use since it is being used to illustrate the album. The rationale for its use is covered on the file page.
3953:'s talk page informing them that I have addressed their comments as it's been a few days since then, but the user has not edited Knowledge since 25 May, a few minutes after leaving the above feedback. 853:
A too-long album infobox. You can make this shorter and simpler just by replacing those recording studios (which should be dealt with in the prose) with "June 2007 – December 2008 at various location".
779:) when the album is still selling well. I've put on a turn there over their utter inflexibility, but beware of this fair-use claim. In any case, could you put it on the right-side under the quote-box? 994:
Succession boxes—And this improves the article how? (I generally have never seen the point of succession boxes—why the focus on #1 albums only, for one.) Also, unreferenced. Strongly suggest removal.
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As above, I think in the interests of giving the reader enough information, we can live with the italics (indeed, I'm not even sure that would be incorrect in this case). So, you could format it as:
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If it's a Project-wide decision for them to be included and needs a Project-wide consensus to be removed then it seems that it is bigger than this one article. As a result I've restored it for now.
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I suggest adding the word "rapper" in front of will.i.am so readers don't have to click on will.i.am to figure out who he is. Possibly most people interested in U2 will not have heard of him.
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I've expanded the paragraph and moved it a bit further up so it flows right after the sales figures and such (also making it a bit more chronological); hopefully this makes it less jaring.
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I've added in some hyphens, but someone may want to check to see if I have used the correct format (there seems to be so many different varieties, and I'm always confusing them! ^^;)
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this touting of debut figures. It looks like this part of the article was written as the album was released and not revised. With albums, the race goes to the tortoise not the hare!
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Feel free to tweak to whatever your preferences are, obviously, but for me that rough format gives the reader enough information to work with. We can just live with the italics.
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As far as I've seen from building the Tour article the reason for this was never discussed by the band, but I will do another search (can't promise I'll find anything though).
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Surely more people than just Bono were disappointed by the sales. What about the record company? What did Paul McGuinness say? What did other industry observers say?
452:. Hello from your neighbor FAC to the north. :) I took a quick peek at this article, and although it is well-referenced and the prose is readable, I have some concerns: 2104:
filler values like this distorts that process. And some news outlets will run an uncredited wire service report, which means inserting "Staff" is not always correct.
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Track listing—jeez this is complicated. But I guess there is no other way. However, I can't say I've seen too many rock album tracklistings with a producer column...
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I've never seen this method of linking employed anywhere else; I wonder who told you it had to be done this way? I'm not making an issue of this, but I am curious.
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which has U2 in a tie for 8th. I don't know where a good source is for the full ranking, but third cannot be correct; there were plenty of news outlets, including
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I don't understand why it is. The name uses the title field, which defaults to italics. I thought using |title led to plain text? I changed the template from
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That's fine; I spotted that after I originally left these comments, but felt it prudent not to remove the question, just so we had something on this page.
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Comment: This approach is very hard to maintain on an ongoing basis, since even a slight movement of text will often change what the first instance is.
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To aid verification, it's worth going through the references to link to publications' first instances, instead of their second or third. Some examples:
3531:. Upon its release..." Is this a bit clearer? It's supported by ref 17, which references this statement in the "Sessions with Eno and Lanois" section. 623:
I know who The Edge is, and you know who The Edge is, but please pity the poor reader who doesn't know, and explain who he is. "U2 guitarist" will do.
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While I'm not a lover of all succession boxes either, I oppose removing these, because it breaks the chain. It has to be a project-wide decision at
3233:– Read the article from beginning to end, and I'm satisfied with most of what I saw, prose-wise. Did find a few minor issues, which I detail below: 292:
Explain to me how it is an inappropriate usage of the image, and how it fails the FAC criteria. It meets the guideline regarding Non-free images at
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I've switched it all to past tense (I think), since a good chunk of it can be spoken of in that way. The only exceptions are the mentions of which
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Can these two paragraphs be balanced out (or perhaps simply introduced by a summary sentence) to give the right overall impression from the start.
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I've reworded it to the following: "Prior to the album's release, U2 announced that Eno's and Lanois's involvement, as well as the band's time in
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Nice opening, but does a band have a career? Perhaps that's just for musicians, but I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong. "since U2's inception in "?
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But U2 is part of the tour's full name; if we omit it from the section heading, then isn't that using an abbreviated name instead of the proper?
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and this led to the correction of the italics, but every other detail then being excluded. Any suggestions about which is the right one to use?
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I've done a check and delinked a lot of stuff, but you may want to give it another quick sweep and see if there's anything else that should go.
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Hello everyone. I am here today in the sincere hope that the old adage "third time is the charm" proves true. This is the third trip to FAC for
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songs are included on the DVD, and what role they played in this show (a somewhat diminished one, as I read the song listing and sequencing).
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Nice, tight prose and a wealth of information combined to produce an engaging and comprehensive read. Thanks for addressing all my concerns.
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Hmm, I'm not quite sure what to do with this one, since it's something that is still slated for the future and, I admit, is on the verge of
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The most recent statistics I can find are an Associated Press report from October 2009 (one million copies); the only other I've seen is a
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Oops, I think that happened when I shifted the paragraphs in the section around a couple of weeks ago. I've made the switch as suggested.
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noted that the band were scrambling..."); is the next mention far enough down that a second introduction is needed, or is it fine as is?
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The Edge is introduced as the guitarist earlier in the article, during the Eno/Lanois sessions section ("In November 2008, guitarist
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I've removed it from "placing them third" on; hopefully that will solve the problem. One error does not an unreliable source make.
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I think the Main article tags are unnecessary for the tour and Linear; just link their first instance in the prose of the section.—
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guideline. Did they note it inside their heads or in public? Not sure. "Observed" is no good, since it's a kind of subjective call.
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songs are on the Tour DVD; I'm not sure whether to switch to the past tense here too, or if the current present tense is better.
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This statement needs a source: "First-week sales in the United States were over 484,000, the band's second highest figures after
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to use it as a source in a previous FAC for this very article, as apparently it has been used by the BBC and the UK Parliament.
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heading. I suspect you want it to appear in the TOC. As I say, I'll leave it with you to take any or no action on this point.
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Good catch! I've gotten rid of that pesky "to". Thanks for taking the time to read and review the article, I appreciate it!
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opened with strong sales numbers, although these declined very quickly", though this probably needs a bit of polishing.
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by Suhail Kanuga at Blender India (clearly different from the five star review that the American Blender gave it). And
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finishes 32nd with 26 mentions out of some number of reviewers that I didn't quite see) and the results for singles
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I switched to support above; all that remains are some minor points still in those hidden comments I left (renewed
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Is it explained earlier in the article who Steve Lillywhite is? Producer? Musician? The curious reader wonders.
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I have absolutely no idea. Another user stuck it in there for whatever reason when I wasn't looking. Removed.
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Thanks for addressing my initial points. I've now read the whole article, and my remaining comments follow.
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Indeed, which is why I only suggested it might be useful for some of them. Like I say, not a deal breaker.
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I think that "from" does make more sense and it sounds a bit better than to, so I've made the adjustment.
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accordingly. I'm a little leery about adding in any others at the behest of major music publications like
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may be well known in America, but in the UK people will be much more likely to look at a source such as
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Just the title of the article inside the magazine. It was incorrectly put in italics. I've fixed that.
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I haven't looked further than the lead. It's not bad, but probably needs an independent copy-edit.
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Named ref "rs032309" (current no. 100) shows archiveurl error, and the original link redirects to
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were they de-emphasized a bit? And maybe mention "Moment of Surrender"'s role as the show finale.
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reception. I will remove the Sales thresholds though if you think that it's addition is mistaken.
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one, I figured Promotion probably has priority. I hope that this addresses all of your concerns!
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a bolded heading (which would exclude it from the TOC), (b) add an initial subsection heading to
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I think that works a bit better. Thanks. What do you think PL290? Is the wording less confusing?
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Yes, that's actually a much better wording! Thanks for the suggestion; I've implemented it now.
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Fair enough. Subsequent reviewers might want to look at it, but it's not a deal-breaker for me.
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There are an overwhelming number of (sometimes complex) tables and infoboxes in this article:
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It is a video, but I'm unsure of what you mean by "say outright". Do you mean a switch from
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But suddenly the next sentence, which ends the paragraph, surprisingly and blandly states,
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I'll do a search, but as far as I'm aware Reuters is considered to be a reliable source.
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Formats: Some hyphens would be useful here in areas with "## page", such as "24 page".
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link that's used to confirm the band streamed one of their concerts over the service.
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Charts—Fine, but two things—what year did the singles chart? And certifications does
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for another one from the home country. And even ones without star ratings, such as
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section, so some context is needed here for the second sentence to be meaningful.
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How about the list of nominations and winners? I've substituted the ref for that.
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My error on that; I copy-pasted the entire citation instead of just the ref name.
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Linked Jewish and Hindu music. No article exists on Sufi singing that I can find.
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Ovelinking—street sign, stadium, set designer, limited editions. Audit throughout.
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Stuff that should be linked, if possible—Jewish music, Hindu music, Sufi singing.
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I think I've gotten all of these now. Looks like there were only three of them.
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I'd double check the assertion about #1's ranking on the UK Album Chart as well.
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generally? I'd say it's fair to assume there's broad acceptance on their use. --
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the article and changed quite a few of "the band"s into "the group"s or "U2"s.
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Are there any metrics for how much radio airplay the songs from the album got?
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Thanks for your comments thus far, and for getting back to them so quickly!
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Another voice in support of fair use of album covers for album articles.
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Obviously, I can't access it, so I don't know who's in it, so tweak the
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We then have a large paragraph about disappointing sales, ending with,
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I have not yet read the whole article, but what I've read is very good.
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Leaning support, pending resolution of source questions/issues (below).
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depending on what alterations are made. Do you have any suggestions?
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A couple have unneeded spaces, but I'll get them when I'm done here.
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I haven't looked much at the other sections, but this is something.
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in Israel, can be used in the text discussion of critical reaction.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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article, the stars graphics (or their equivalent) are easy to see.
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Bono; The Edge; Clayton, Adam; Mullen Jr, Larry (2009-11-27).
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Are we happy with radioandmusic.com as a reliable source?
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A television program in France. How should I specify it?
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Replace a few of the "band"s with "group" to add variety.
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switched out the Italy field in the charts for Mexico.
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template should not be used in the same article as the
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I think that's a byproduct from when that sentence in
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issue already raised by Brian; will await a response.
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Add a descriptor to Midem. I didn't know what it was.
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equate no of copies sold. It indicates no of copies
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the way, just a suggestion to make it more uniform.
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There might be a relevant project page to do so. --
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You can find the 2009 results for albums 1480:Same for the text, very U.S. and UK centric. 3984:was lame - but can't fault the WP article! 3239:previous few releases." Which should it be? 3004:What makes everyhit.com a reliable source? 2392:The Superleague of Extraordinary Gentlemen 1152:Altered to "Deupree called the cover...". 134: 41:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates 1543:article from September (991,000 copies). 2726:For output consistency, perhaps go with 2630:Note: Subscription required for access. 925:I'm a little leery about removing this. 798:Thanks for your comments thus far; I've 300:". Critical commentary on the cover art 278:- Inappropriate use of non free content 3298:Good point; I've removed that linkage. 3270:Comma removed; thanks for spotting it! 2212:Duplicate cite, named ref "StarReview". 137: 116: 3474:Thank you very much for your support! 2896:, especially as you haven't elsewhere. 2777:": why is there a template in there? 2773:Current ref no. 51, "Download 'No Line 2682:": not sure that should be italicised. 438:—no dab links or dead external links. 2641:parameter is just a suggestion too). 2255:is currently undergoing maintenance. 1604:The second part of this statement is 1438:) and three from the United Kingdom ( 651:I've clarified that he plays for U2. 18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates 7: 1610:Billboard 200#Most number-one albums 1422:There's now one review from Canada ( 3083:Struck some and left some replies. 2278:Newspaper and magazine names, e.g. 2128:Struck this as a preference thing. 2060:File:U2 360 tour stage Zagreb 2.JPG 754:re-scheduled has a hyphen? Unsure. 24: 206:some copyediting (many thanks to 3576:, but I'm not sure about those. 3139:, who has done a ton of work on 2937:Clayton, and the development of 2680:Absolute Radio interview with U2 2510:That was achieved by use of the 493:Not much you can do here, then. 3509:Some specific comments so far: 2617:(Video). U2.com. Archived from 2498:(Radio broadcast) (in French). 2251:a second check) is because the 1571:How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb 1397:I've added in the MTV Asia and 276:Fails Featured article criteria 1503:(a scattering of U2 mentions). 596:I didn't notice that. Struck. 1: 3010:I was specifically instructed 2425:Current ref no. 27, the film 757:"many noted"—ah, see our new 696:More later, as I have time. 3949:*Note: I've left a note on 3164:Indeed it does. 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A video? 1919:11:56, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1852:13:33, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1832:13:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1808:12:24, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1776:12:38, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1740:12:24, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1709:13:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1674:13:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1639:12:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1596:13:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1559:13:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1535:12:34, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1519:considered unreliable. 1466:04:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC) 1426:), one from Australia ( 1393:01:27, 9 May 2010 (UTC) 1343:here is a 3 star review 1337:15:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC) 1316:16:46, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1276:19:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 1252:16:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC) 1234:11:47, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1199:14:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 1168:19:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 1137:18:48, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 1106:19:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 1069:11:28, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1049:11:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 1030:12:09, 5 May 2010 (UTC) 1015:14:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 988:14:01, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 949:19:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 902:14:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 874:14:01, 4 May 2010 (UTC) 833:17:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 819:16:20, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 793:12:54, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 745:from his name, anyway). 724:04:44, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 703:01:13, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 691:04:11, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 658:04:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 647:04:11, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 603:04:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 592:04:11, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 551:04:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 540:04:11, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 500:04:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 489:04:04, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 443:11:02, 1 May 2010 (UTC) 415:11:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC) 401:04:04, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 380:02:33, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 365:02:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC) 350:22:59, 1 May 2010 (UTC) 335:16:50, 1 May 2010 (UTC) 320:15:30, 1 May 2010 (UTC) 288:14:25, 1 May 2010 (UTC) 271:13:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC) 249:08:30, 1 May 2010 (UTC) 231:04:21, 1 May 2010 (UTC) 215:topic at hand. 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