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313:"In 1919, following the scuttling of the German fleet in Scapa Flow, she was ceded to the British as a replacement for the ships that had been sunk." (in the lead) and "On 11 November 1918, the Armistice took effect; according to its terms, eleven battleships and five battlecruisers were to be interned in Scapa Flow for the duration of negotiations for the peace treaty. Posen was not among the ships interned, and she was instead decommissioned on 16 December. The ships in Scapa Flow were eventually scuttled on 21 June 1919, and as a result, Posen and the other battleships not interned were seized as replacements for the ships that had been lost." (in the main text) - this didn't make sense to me until I clicked on the link and found that the Germans had scuttled their own ships - the "eventually" probably threw me off a bit. It would be good to perhaps clarify this in the main text, e.g. "The ships in Scapa flow were scuttled by the German commander to prevent them being divided among the allies," or some phrasing like that? 482:
I wasn't aware no libraries in the US have those books, too bad they are out of print or I'd put in a request that we would acquire them. The Great Naval Game: Britain and Germany in the Age of Empire By Jan Rüger was the other book which is in english and has some of the details, but none for Posen.
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up to 50%, a project over 6 years in the making. I wrote this article in 2010, when it passed GA and A-class reviews; it has since waited in the queue for FAC. I look forward to working with reviewers to ensure this article meets the FA criteria. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to review
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Yes, the class articles all need some work - they were among the first articles I wrote in this project, and as such were all sort of experimental. And of course they were written before Staff's books were published, so they're missing those at very least.
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Congratulations; feels like the end of an era :) I see I did a lot of editing on this a long time ago, so I'm probably commenting on some of my own work here from back when I was a naive lad, I haven't
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According to Groener, it "includes 25 to 50 percent full load as above, and has been used in the German navy since 1882 as a basis for performance and speed calculations." Want me to add a note?
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I'm dependent on MisterBee for that information, since HRS is difficult to get here in the US. I pinged him, but he doesn't appear to be all that active at the moment. Thanks as always, Kirk.
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That's already in the article (see the second paragraph in the Finland section, about the middle of the paragraph). Thanks for your help with HRS, MisterBee.
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regarding armament two of her 8.8 cm (3.5 in) SK L/45 guns were replaced by two 8.8 cm (3.5 in) SK L/45 guns were replaced by the Flak variant. page 239
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The final German dreadnought to appear at FAC, this is the end of an era of sorts. Granted, a few more articles will have to come here to bump
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I'll need to check Groener for her cost this afternoon - everything else should be taken care of. Thanks for reviewing the article, Sturm.
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Not required, but it would be good to round of the metric conversions off properly with a |1 at the end of the template.
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the class article needs some attention & hopefully MisterBee can help with those gossipy details.
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Does he have a title of some sort? I'd like to identify his significance to the reader if possible.
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I thought it was easier to get that than - isn't there another book we found with that info?
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has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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Link knot, nautical mile (I'd also suggest unabbreviating these on first use), turret.
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Cite error: "A list-defined reference named "displacement" is not used in the content"
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Cut both - neither are particularly important details for the infobox
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assault the capital of Helsingfors: 4 dead and 12 wounded. page 241
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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Added. To be clear, the connection is that Hugo was born in Posen?
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I'll need to double-check Groener and see if I didn't make a typo.
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Complement uncited; also, define 2nd command flagship somewhere.
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speech by Wilhelm August Hans von Waldow-Reitzenstein. page 239
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Add the royalty present at the launching and christening.
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commanded her from June 1917 to November 1918. page 239
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Be consistent in whether you abbreviate page ranges.
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Nope - I can't find a copy outside of Germany (well,
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launched 12 December 1908 not 13 December. page 239
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fix rationale for triple reciprocating vs. turbines
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