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231:(Edit conflict) Sorry, didn't mean to snap back too hard. I probably should've sought a peer review for this; it was likely that some recent ones of mine hadn't gotten any comments so I was feeling discouraged about the process. I merely wanted to let you know that, although I agree this article could use expansion, FA having tighter criteria than GA isn't at all something I'm unaware of - in fact, the peer review of 147:
marketing campaign in North America, about which much has been written as well. Also, a game with as large an effect on the industry as this, which basically put Sega on the map as a console developer, deserves more than two tiny paragraphs on its impact. There is a fine skeleton here, but it needs to be fleshed out for FA status.
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generally slower, somewhat cramped level design, more in the vein of a traditional platformer. It's not one of my favorites, but it's a darling of early-'90s pop-culture nostalgiacs and jaded, sneering game journalists and as such deserves to be written about to the highest standard possible. Thanks for your attention.
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when I have some time, as both Indrian and I have the book. But let's try to establish what, exactly, this article must have to at least meet our FA standards. Indrian, were you saying that information on the origins of all six of the zones is out there? If so, I haven't seen it, not that I claim any
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Heh, you added the above just as I was deleting my comment. Apology accepted. I was honestly not aware you had done so many FAs (I see your name at the VG project, but I don't really pay attention to who is doing what all that much), so it really was just meant as some friendly advice. I certainly
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Yes, if you could get your hands on the majority of those sources, they should pretty comprehensively cover the development, launch, and marketing of the game. There is not a huge amount of additional development info on the game out there, so I am not expecting to see too much more, but most of the
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discusses the impact SOA had on the Sonic character himself, which I think needs to be mentioned briefly. For many video game articles, the marketing side is not necessarily as important, but because much of Sega's Genesis strategy in 1991 hinged on Sonic, there are some important points to cover.
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is also notable in retrospect for some unusual design choices that would quickly be changed in later games, such as a very small cast of characters (don't worry, Espio, Chip, Vanilla, and Shade, we still love you), the lack of the famous "spin dash" move, the presence of only six Chaos Emeralds, and
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In the interest of getting something together for Sonic's 25th anniversary a year and a half from now, I've brought what was a C-class article (and failed as a GAN by someone before I showed up) to GA and gotten a copyedit done, and here's the final step. One of perhaps only a single-digit number of
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Going through the history of the article, I noticed that other than copy editing, very little work was done to improve the article after the GA review in October. While the article as it stands really is a nice little piece, the standards for FA are meant to be tougher than GA, and an article is
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Furthermore, the article is not quite there yet on comprehensiveness grounds either. There is nothing on SOA's role in changing the design of the Sonic character, nothing on the inspiration for the aesthetics of the stages (this information does exist), and nothing on the market positioning and
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rarely ready to make the leap from one level to the next without a great deal of additional work put in. I fully believe you can get this article up to FA status, but it will require significant expansion of certain sections of the article. Good luck!
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s development and the physical copy I requested from the library, it turns out, still has another hold to go through. I have, however, found an IGN article that's been useful for filling in a few more details, and you've mentioned owning
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caused me to spend many hours scouring online archives and obscure websites for usable sources after its GAN. I see no reason I can't continue that here, especially if the most important extraneous sources are already listed for me.
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sort of expertise on this game's development. Tezero, another thing you really should do is watch the whole GameTap documentary (portions of which are used in this very article), which actually covered most of the
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This is a nice start on this important topic, but it omits far too many important sources to satisfy the well-researched criteria. These sources include
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in there, which does seem to be largely accessible through Amazon. Also, I would not use that IGN article as it is just summarizing information from
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up to GA status, you might be interested in what the book has to say about that game, including a higher sales figure of 1.8 million).
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source, although there's more to sift through, and I now have access to all three of the other sources you asked for.
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influenced the game, Yasuhara created the 360 degree loops, ect. which should probably be included. (In the case of
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Any progress, Tezero? The book seems to have some interesting material about how Naka's work on
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has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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This is definitely coming along, but as Times says, you should get some material from
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sources above include interviews with Naka and/or Oshima that fill in some gaps.
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Issue 100, which contains a "Making Of" with a Yuji Naka interview, and
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stuff (i.e. Madeline Shroeder's role in Sonic's redesign) back in 2009.
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from French publisher Pix'n Love (the book is available in English),
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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I seem to be having no problem reading lengthy excerpts from the
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book are too low-res to read, while the Google Books upload of
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games in its series still held in high esteem by critics,
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Sonic the Hedgehog (1991 video game)
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