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I'm pretty sure that the Roman College had ceased to actually be the Roman College in the 16th century, when the Gregorian University was created, but continued to be colloquially referred to as that. However, after doing a bit of research, I've turned up lots of ambiguity and little definitiveness,
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Given the briefness of the section of president of Georgetown College, it might be worth mentioning (having looked at the source) that while he was president the college attended Polk's inauguration and marched in the procession to honor Andrew Jackson on his death. By the dates, those happened
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I would think that you could mine Dooley for a few more details, again, given that the article is relatively brief. Father Quarter's opinion of his assistant sounds worth repeating. And it sounds like he overcame his alcoholism there, and possibly details of his funeral.
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this phrasing may make it confusing with regards to when/where he taught rhetoric. Would that be after 1848 at Georgetown? If so you may want to say something like: "At Georgetown, he was a professor of dogmatic theology from 1847 to 1848, and taught rhetoric
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I mean, technically, he wasn't allowed to quit; he had to get permission from the Jesuit superior. That's why I phrase it that way. I cannot find a reason why he quit, but I imagine it was probably related to early alcoholism.
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I'm not sure; that would require going through the 45 different presidents and seeing what age they were when they were appointed. I wouldn't really be sure how to cite that either.
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says that he received a class ("Silver") medal in mathematics as well as rhethoric which you have mentioned. He also received a honorable mention ("The Premium") in French.
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I've removed the second instance. I think it's necessary to keep the first, because otherwise, the sentence could be read as meaning Samuel was the prominent Jesuit.
471:" but sought to be relieved of the position after just several months." I might conclude (after "position") "after only a few months". Sounds better to me anyway. 374:"Upon his return to the United States, he was named president of Georgetown" โ€“ he returned from Rome in 1941 and was not appointed president until 1945. --- 106: 40: 928:- I think this can be rephrased because it is awkward. E.g. "He paid some of his tuition in kind,"... Are the horses the only payment he made in kind? 303: 291: 109:, but was relieved after just a few months and then was booted from the Jesuit order. He drifted around and then was re-admitted on his death bed. 593:
I've just capitalized it the way the source capitalizes it. I think if I were to change it, that would be (minor) modification of the original.
507:"Near his death, Quarter sent a letter to the vicar general for the Archdiocese of New York " I might say "Shortly before" rather than "Near". 1652: 1604: 1507: 1443: 1403: 442: 381: 344: 313: 245: 160: 30: 17: 1663: 811:- Do you know why he decided to quit? I also find the phrase "sought to" slightly offputting. You can probably say, simply, that he quit. 1306:
adds nothing crucial and does not even mention Samuel. What you need is a source for his father being "a Catholic" which can be found in
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He then was assigned to the Church of Sts. Peter and Paul in South Boston and St. Mary's Church in Yonkers, New York, in 1859 and 1860
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points for these comments.) On first read, this seems to be a decent article, but short. I will leave more detailed comments later.
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These are the rest of my comments for now. Otherwise I don't see any obstacle to this page becoming yet another priest-related FA.
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Generally you can mention Mulledy's name more often (first or last, either way), rather than beginning sentences with "He". E.g.
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Archbishop John McCloskey decided to transfer administration of the parish to the Jesuits, which was done at Mulledy's request
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After a deeper look, I am almost certain this is about Thomas and you don't have any sources for Samuel going to Nice. ---
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Somewhat of a short article. Image-wise it seems like both use and license are OK here. Only one of them has ALT text.
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I appreciate whatever comments you can provide. If you're able to do a review of the whole article, that'd be great.
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That's fine. Optionally I think there can be a footnote saying that "A" is part of his full name, not an initial.
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The source doesn't distinguish, but my understanding of asthma is that it generally doesn't arise later in life.
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I find no specific grades. But several sources say he was a very good student, which is why he was sent to Rome.
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Then I suggest you can say "was a distinguished student". "Proved to be" is a vague wording, in my view.
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I don't think you have the strong enough sourcing to use the word "severe" in the lead or the body. ---
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I cannot tell from the sources. They only mention Thomas, but do not definitively say he had only one.
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who was a prominent 19th-century Jesuit in the United States and who was also president of Georgetown.
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From 1847 to 1848, he was a professor dogmatic theology at Georgetown, and taught rhetoric thereafter
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there is inconsistent use of "President of Georgetown" and "president of Georgetown". Take a look at
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I left those out because I didn't think they were too relevant, but I've added a mention of them.
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You are right, that was my reading the Latin source too quickly. I've corrected the error.
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has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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I am not sure if I have the time for a full review but I do want to offer what I can:
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Mulledy then became an alcoholic, and was expelled from the Society of Jesus in 1850
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gave sermons on the occassion. I can email you the pages if you don't have access.
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He also studied in Nice in 1840, which fell within the Jesuit province of Turin.
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on Project Muse says that he was one of three priests at the dedication mass of
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I might say at first mention in the body how many years older Thomas was.
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I've scavenged for a few more details from Dooley and incorporated them.
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Mulledy then returned from Europe, and was appointed on November 1, 1841
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Sources. Should the Gramatowski title be in title case like the others?
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I've split it up into two sentences. It seems that the horses was it.
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says that he was appointed president when Ryder was called to Rome.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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says that Thomas was in residence in Nice. No mention of Samuel on
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Actually, turns out the source confused the two brothers. Checking
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Thank you for this thorough source review. It's much appreciated.
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would it be acceptable for me to do a source review as well. ---
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He sought to be relieved of the position after only a few months.
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Thank you for your comments. I believe I've addressed them all.
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Thank you for your comments. I believe I've responded to each.
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some of his tuition he paid in kind, in the form of two horses
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Either way is grammatically correct, but I've rephrased it.
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His brother, Thomas F. Mulledy, was 17 years older than him,
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I'm not following. The title is formatted according to
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priest who had a less-than-stellar track record as a
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Index

Knowledge:Featured article candidates
featured article nomination
Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates
Laser brain
FACBot
talk

Samuel Mulledy
Ergo Sum
03:06, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
Catholic
Jesuit
president of Georgetown University
Ergo Sum
03:06, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
Coffeeandcrumbs
Ergo Sum
22:57, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
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Coffeeandcrumbs
02:48, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
Ergo Sum
22:57, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
MOS:JOBTITLES
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17:37, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
This source
Ergo Sum
17:43, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

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