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1418:, which uses two sources on the doubt side, one of which addresses the topic vary narrowly and is useless in our context, and the other which can no longer be found. Such is the internet! So I went looking for other sources and believe Porter writing in his column at the bloodhorse is a very high quality source - he's a professional pedigree analyst speaking in an area of his expertise. The Sophia Stallions site is for a professional breeding operation and the article is very well written so I thought it okay to include. I just found another profound dissent from "pedigreegoddess" Anne Peters (she really is an expert, though the URL is pretty funny). 994:
way before "she said", etc, by many publishers everywhere. The US Council of Science Editors insists on outside the quotemarks (the so-called "logical" method), to avoid "misquoting" the punctuation where it wasn't in the source. Normal UK and Commonwealth practice is outside the quotemarks ("logical" method), to avoid "misquoting" the punctuation where it wasn't in the source. Please don't change your personal practice outside WP!
455:, I added the Point 2 rationale to the screenshots, had to tweak the templates a little to make it appear (there was a "commercial" parameter on the images, but it wasn't showing up). On the Secretariat statue, Jlvsclrk added an appropriate photographer's release, but the copyright on the statue itself is held by the artist and I think it's PD-no-notice, so I re-added that template as well, I think we need both. 1425:
The book cited was added by someone who apparently had a hardcopy, I can't recall who, but without a page number and as we can't access the snippet view, we have to go with what exists. The Blood Horse cite is solid. The other isn't great, but itself does cite third-party sources. I agree that Anne
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Jlv, it's been the subject of bitter disputes at MOS, but whenever someone proposes to change the rule, there's a groundswell of opposition. You'll find most US publishers use the inside-the-quote-mark method. Many news outlets outside the US also use it. Direct quotations in novels are rendered that
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as the GA reviewer. It is very well-written, and worthy of being a FA. The GA review was a bit more stringent than customary but whatever needed tweaking beyond that appears to have been handled. After GA promotion, it went through yet another review by Wehwalt. If it needed any further tweaking,
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winner and one of the finest racehorses in history. This is a high-importance article for WikiProject Horse racing and one that has has a substantial amount of work put in by many editors, not just the nominators. We welcome a comprehensive review for an article on a topic important to the project.
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I could have sworn I'd changed those already. website= paramater automatically italicizes so I've changed Arlington Park to arlington.com for example. The website is a publication, is it not? To be safe though, I changed the sources for the sections on the Meadow Event Park and Secretariat Centre to
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can deal with 1, 3, 4. I fixed 2. re 5 - the photo was taken by me and is public domain. I'm sure I don't understand American copyright law on the statue itself but the original was produced in 1974 and is now at the Hall of Fame. The version in the picture is a replica installed in 1988 as noted in
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I assume this is regarding the sources for the last paragraph about the X-factor theory. Some background here first. The "pro" X-factor club are online and vocal, while most breeding professionals seem dismissive (thinking it grossly over-simplistic) to the point of not writing much about it. So we
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FN20 - now split into 3 refs to get appropriate page #s. FN57 - "Sham..." don't have access to this book and unfortunately the bit is not in the sample online chapter. Should I delete the sentence, or change to something like "..., Secretariat's chances in the Kentucky Derby became the subject of
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The past performance table posted on secretariat.com (but sourced from the Daily Racing Form) indicates if a horse is the favorite in a given race with a star by the odds (shown as *.40 for example), and the Sanford is the only one where he wasn't. Is it synth to turn this coding into the comment
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For the upper sections, yes. I'm unsure about conversion rules and conventions, but was just pointing it out. "The colt soon started distinguishing himself from the other foals."—would this be ok? "The colt soon distinguished himself from the other foals." — "not sure what the error is" ... more
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LOL. The background section on his breeding has sometimes read like a mystery novel. Fun to read but... LMK if it reads better with the new opening sentence in the background. I don't know if we can add something to the intro without disrupting the flow and maintaining the interest level. -
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Hi Tony, I did your suggested wording change - agree it reads better. My question was on the later part of the bullet where you said "Just after, there's a comma before closing quotes." That's where I'm not sure what the error is - the comma I see is followed by a 'he said' construction.
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used? I suppose a more direct translation of the chart data would lead to the comment "Secretariat was the favorite in every race except the Sanford." Alternatively, I could add the stars to the table with a note at the bottom on what it means. Any suggestions.
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I had a fair number of comments at the peer review and did some editing myself. Seems an excellent article on a significant figure, both in the sports world and culturally. One of the earliest sports events I remember watching was the Belmont that year. Well
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I chopped the first sentence in two - LMK if it's now too choppy. In what's now the second sentence, I tried to come up with something better than "greatest races of all time" but that's at least supported in the article already. LMK if I should rework
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On my screen, moving up the horse anatomy chart runs into the quote box in the preceding section, our intent was to have the table and the chart side-by-side. Open to suggestions for improvement, but I'm not quite sure if there is a solution...
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I'd mention both his parents in the lead, or at least a bit sooner in "Background". Came as a little surprise to me who his mother was, after the coin-tossing stories. Or is that intended? - I should have looked at the infobox where they are ;)
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replace it with the Saratoga image, but it would be nice if we could keep the Belmont one, because that's the most famous version and a better photo. Given that we are dealing with a 1988 copy of a 1974 original statue, I am going to ping
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FN8 - I don't have access to the book originally used as source, so I changed to use Bill Nack's book. Also clarified that it was two mares being sent, not necessarily two foals being produced (since this matters in the paragraph that
786:"Chenery got her first look at the foal and made a one word entry in her notebook:"—maybe, but it's on the informal edge of the envelope, I think. Hyphen. "Chenery first saw the foal and made a one-word entry in her notebook:"? 709:"United States" should definitely not be linked. "$ " is linked ... that's not normal, and as a reader I'd rather know that it's "US$ " than have to hover over the $ to find out. Also, the dollar symbol hangs below the line. 1065:
The poem, which was written in the 1930s, is about the yearning in horse racing to see another great one come along. Sheer coincidence that Secretariat, like Man o' War, was "a chestnut colt, and he's got a star"
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Peters' site is a professional page, not just someone's random blog and as such an RS; that said, she doesn't cite her source material for her "debunking" claims, which limits the degree to which we can use it.
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everything we say in the lead is supported in the body of the article. The icon phrase comes from the last paragraph before the start of the Belmont Stakes where it talks about him becoming a cultural phenomenon.
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I shouldn't think so, if they are exact copies. It's original publication before 1978 without a copyright notice that creates the lack of a copyright. Are we confident the original lacks a copyright notice?--
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Access dates - used for all. Publication dates - added a few that were originally missed, but not applicable in many cases (eg, equibase is a database) or not given (eg, FN14 ESPN.com article has no date).
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Is there a difference between news/periodical refs that use website name )eg. latimes.com) and those that use the actual publication title? If not, should be consistent, and I'd suggest doing the latter.
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I've changed to the latter, unless the website itself uses ".com". For example, thestar.com is titled as such as the page, and you only see Toronto Star in the end section. wonder if its a legal thing?
778:"The colt soon started distinguishing himself from the other foals."—would this be ok? "The colt soon distinguished himself from the other foals." Just after, there's a comma before closing quotes. 358:, but it doesn't have the blanket of carnations they place on Belmont Day. The original is one of the few objects at the Hall of Fame that you're allowed to photograph so I'm pretty sure it's fine. 301:"Connections" are the people associated with the horse. I will tweak that phrasing at the image page. I also changed the rationale for the Kentucky Derby image, does that improve matters? —MTBW 686:
have to put up with ugly, clunky, large fractions in inline text. I suppose the guideline for conversion to international units doesn't apply (?). There are inches in the table, unconverted.
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Where it says Secretariat's birthplace is on the NRHP, I guess that means the whole farm The Meadow, but the way it's written now it sounds sort of like the exact spot is what's on the NRHP.
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I think montanabw originally suggested that particular license because of the subject matter. Assuming the statue is fair game, I've changed the license to self|cc-by-sa-4.0 (share alike).
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In "Appearance and conformation": I could imagine the image higher, to have the table less squeezed on a small screen, - also good to have the image where the terms are mentioned first.
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File:Secretariat_statue.jpg: what is the copyright status of the photo, and are we sure about the copyright expiration? Skeaping seems to have made several later copies of the statue.
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If it was published in 1974, I guess the question is, is there a copyright notice on the statue? If there is not, the tag is good, if there is, and it is proper, you're out of luck.--
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We would need tags for both the photo and the statue, yes. I'm not sure though that PD-no-notice is the appropriate tag, and would like to hear from Wehwalt or others on that point.
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Huh, I've been doing this wrong for my entire life. Spot checking, so are most of the sources. Learn something every day. Will fix this and a few other uses in the article.
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I think it would look better for the part about the heart weight to say, "(8.5 lbs, or 3.9 kgs)" instead of double parentheses around the kilograms, which looks clunky.
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Be consistent in whether books include location of publication - some do, some don't. If you do include them, be consistent in how you format state (eg. Ky. vs VA)
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and synonyms throughout - some things are italicized that shouldn't be (eg Bluefield College, FN18), while others are not that should be (eg The Atlantic, FN84)
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I don't think I've ever made more than one or two minor edits here, so I should be able to review neutrally. I have a few comments, some of them sort of piddly:
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much debate in the media." Can reference this to Woolfe and Nack. FN140 - don't have access to the book. I found a few skeptical online sources to use though
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Not entirely. Generally speaking, if things aren't actual publications they shouldn't be italicized. Examples include Arlington or Meadow Event Park.
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puts it, if we take it out, they'll just put it back in), but at the same time express the doubt. For alternate sources, I first looked at wiki's
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In "Belmont Stakes": In the quote box, I think no quotation marks are necessary, but a full stop (or three, if it's not the end of the sentence).
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miles? As a North American horse racing fan, I find the former odd, but if it's easier for non-horseracing people to understand, I'm all for it.
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to highlight the duplicates). Also for the block quotes I think we can do without the {{prettyquote}} template and just use {{quote}}. Cheers,
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The background section uses an awful lot of parentheses, and some of the details, like the mares sent to be bred, can go outside parentheses.
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FN46: news.google.com isn't the work, it's a republishing service - include the original source details, and then if you want to you can use
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Yes, good. What do you think of putting the reference behind it, - or combine the two? I'd like people to read it note, more than the ref. --
757:"and the as-yet unborn 1970 foal of Somethingroyal; the latter foal turned out to be Secretariat"—could it be just ", which turned out ..."? 1713:
Two remaining concerns on my side - some persisting italicized publishers (such as the two examples mentioned above), and I'm not sure that
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There are quite a few duplinks in the article. I won't hold up promotion over them but pls review and see what you can do without (use
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see interspersed comments above. Should we also add meters when mentioning race distances? Do you think 9.5 furlongs reads better than
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I added a "conversion of racing distances" chart (based on the one in the American Pharoah article) for the racing statistics section.
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There is no copyright notice on the statue. Below the sculptor's name and date on the base of the statue is one more line, cut off in
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Yes. It's also a widely used term in the horse business. ("Stands and nurses" is often the point at which stud fees become payable)
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that really doesn't scan right to me. Could replace "the spring of 1969" with the "the 1969 breeding season" if that reads better.
720:"had" just feels like a weak verb to me. Will change if it bothers you but "possessed" just seems more appropriate to me. *shrug* 1415: 309:
The base of the statue itself says "1974" in the image, so the original work is within the change in the law, but the statue
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The very first sentence in the lead is sort of a run-on, listing half the things he ever did. Is there a way to split it up?
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on the two screenshots? That will just leave the copyright expiration issue, which is complicated by the "republication".
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Is there a reason why it's written "honoured" in the part about the Canadian International? (Was it done intentionally?)
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The last line in the lead, the one about him being honored many years after his death, reads in a promotional way to me.
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snort. removed since wasn't needed - everything was in the other source, but it was a very interesting article!
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Retrieval dates aren't needed or useful for Google Books, but you should be consistent in whether you use them
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File:Owner_Meadow_Stable.svg: can we include a source in the description to verify the accuracy of the design?
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Yes. I'm not sure that the sites added since the last review would qualify as high-quality reliable sources.
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at the Blood-Horse. True Nicks is both the name of his business and a column he writes for the magazine.
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I went ahead and added paper name, even there, as for some reason all the papers are doing that... --MTBW
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Some web sources include both access dates and publication dates, others do not - should be consistent.
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As an aside, its primary value was that it had a photo of the horse. In case anyone doubted it... MTBW
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miles (1.9 km) too if someone wants us to, but there does become a point at which it is pretty clunky.
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I answered further questions, let us know if there are further fixes! Thanks everyone for your reviews.
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It's fine now; hopefully we can get more reviews and get it to FA pretty soon. I'm ready to support it!
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Being new to this topic, I'm unused to seeing "he" and "who" used to refer to the horse; I guess so.
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Sometimes you include "www" in website names, other times not - suggest consistently not doing so
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feel it necessary to include since its something that some people feel VERY strongly about (as
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Might be worthwhile to source some of the superlatives in the lead, such as the "icon" phrase
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File:1973_Kentucky_Derby_Secretariat.jpg: could you add something to the description about
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On Penny Chenery's quote in the Whitney Stakes section, the closing quote mark is missing.
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has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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on the lead and first few sections (disclosure: the nominator is a fellow member of the
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for his take on how we handle a copy where the original is in the public domain. —MTBW
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wiki markup automatically italicizes website= , so I'll change these back to xyz.com
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Isn't it an indictment on the Foundation's engeering and products division that we
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showing the reverse angle, no notice on it either. Original has identical wording.
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FN138 should be converted to a template to match the rest of the book citations
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I added an endnote so as not to clutter the poem itself. Does that work?
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I think we still need a source review for formatting/reliability. Cheers,
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FN51 is italicizing date and shouldn't, and publication title is missing
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newspapers. As for truenicks, it really is a very high quality source.
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FN75 and 78 are to the same website so should have the same formatting
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I fixed this to put a source in the note, the rest is simple analysis..
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Did you mean it would be better if we replaced the colon with a hyphen?
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first part FIXED by Jlvsclrk. Second part - not sure what the error is
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you prefer to the photo? Montana, could you add a quick statement re:
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of the 1974 original. As Jlvsclrk stated, s/he took the image. We
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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And in US English generally, we nurse our human babies too. --MTBW
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did a good job with that part of the review as she so often does.
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Find-A-Grave is not a high-quality reliable source, nor is IMDB
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to a picture that shows the full statue - no copyright notice. (
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FIXED by MTBW (large enough? It's 1.5x can go bigger if needed)
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We have the conversion table, we do a three-way conversion of
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Yes, my apologies. My brain tripped over an archived memory.
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FN136: would make sense to cite the original source directly
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Could you make this explanation part of the image caption? --
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http://www.pedigreegoddess.com/PedigreeTheory/X%20Factor.htm
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You can leave a note among the other requests at the top of
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What makes ilovehorses.net a high-quality reliable source?
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fixed (though seems to be a problem with the ISBN database)
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Thank you for a spirited article on a wonderful creature!
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The quoted poem is nice, but I don't see the connection.
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This article is about the famous racehorse Secretariat,
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should be italicized in article text (Belmont section)
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I'll just remove. not sure it adds anything. jlvsclrk
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I think MOS wants "In spring 1989", and "fall 1969".
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Here's a link to various articles written by Porter
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FIXED by Jlvsclrk, and a few further tweaks by MTBW
1839:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. 241:ing this article in its run at FAC. Go, Big Red! 41:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured article candidates 1384:FN8 needs page number. Same with FN20, 57, 140 145:FIXED by Jlvsclrk (minor additional ce by MTBW) 43:. No further edits should be made to this page. 1845:No further edits should be made to this page. 1818:template in place on the talk page until the 689:I was wondering about that. FIXED by Jlvsclrk 29:The following is an archived discussion of a 8: 1271:? Seems the usual suspects aren't around ( 18:Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates 1267:Any suggestions who we can ping for that, 912:: Have all your concerns been addressed? 1132:"croup" should be linked the first time. 959:"Fish are friends, not food", said Bruce. 1766:Anything else? Are we ready to promote? 1416:Circulatory_system_of_the_horse#X_factor 1212:I think we've addressed your concerns. 1622:FN151 has a doubled archival statement 551:Well, then I think the tag is proper.-- 1560: 1556: 1555:AP should generally be credited using 1504: 1471: 1467: 958: 565:Fair enough, we'll go with that then. 275:Statue caption should end in a period 267:Suggest scaling up the anatomy photo 7: 1141:Need to go for now, more to come. -- 765:"nursed" means "suckled", I guess. 717:"possessed" ... "had" wouldn't do? 24: 1422:- would this latter work better? 794:Autumn, or fall? We have both. 704:template sometimes helps. MTBW 118:Comments by White Arabian Filly 1647:working on it! See questions. 1290:if Nikki can't do it. 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We could add 9.5 furlongs 620:I figured it might be in the 211:Think I got the rest of them 1832:14:01, 22 October 2016 (UTC) 1793:14:00, 22 October 2016 (UTC) 1760:23:54, 17 October 2016 (UTC) 1746:04:33, 17 October 2016 (UTC) 1727:02:23, 17 October 2016 (UTC) 1709:02:06, 17 October 2016 (UTC) 1688:05:34, 11 October 2016 (UTC) 1673:01:35, 10 October 2016 (UTC) 1490:01:35, 10 October 2016 (UTC) 1433:17:41, 13 October 2016 (UTC) 1405:01:35, 10 October 2016 (UTC) 1179:That's all. Good reading! -- 725:"In order to"—please, "To". 1813:featured article candidates 1657:23:47, 6 October 2016 (UTC) 1640:12:16, 6 October 2016 (UTC) 1300:08:57, 6 October 2016 (UTC) 1282:08:41, 6 October 2016 (UTC) 1262:00:36, 5 October 2016 (UTC) 1240:22:55, 3 October 2016 (UTC) 1219:01:38, 3 October 2016 (UTC) 1204:03:09, 2 October 2016 (UTC) 1189:19:16, 1 October 2016 (UTC) 1151:16:57, 1 October 2016 (UTC) 1118:22:46, 3 October 2016 (UTC) 1104:06:52, 3 October 2016 (UTC) 1090:01:38, 3 October 2016 (UTC) 1079:07:07, 2 October 2016 (UTC) 1038:10:19, 6 October 2016 (UTC) 1008:07:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC) 677:Standard in the horse world 400:Could you add whichever of 356:picture of the original too 179:template does that. --MTBW 31:featured article nomination 1862: 1717:is a high-quality source. 1451:Fixed a couple more --MTBW 64:) 14:01, 22 October 2016 1842:Please do not modify it. 36:Please do not modify it. 1310:- spotchecks not done 924:words than necessary. 624:images but it appears 354:the article. 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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates
featured article nomination
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured article candidates
Ian Rose
FACBot
talk

Secretariat (horse)
Montanabw
20:29, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
User:Jlvsclrk
talk
Triple Crown
Montanabw
20:29, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
convert
White Arabian Filly
21:18, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
Jlvsclrk
talk
05:19, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
White Arabian Filly
21:00, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
White Arabian Filly
20:16, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

point 2
source
Wehwalt
Nikkimaria

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