103:(an FA), the Surrogate's Courthouse was mired in controversy through its construction, especially after the original architect died. The term "horganizing and slatterifying" was used to criticize the new architects. Unlike its neighbor, the Surrogate's Courthouse didn't receive the same level of opposition upon its completion, and it's mostly been used as a surrogate's court for New York state, as well as a hall of records. It is a National Historic Landmark and a New York City landmark, and it continues to be used as a courthouse.
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711:"The exterior contains fifty-four sculptures by prize-winning artists". An exterior containing sculptures does not sound right to me. Perhaps "The exterior is decorated with fifty-four sculptures by prize-winning artists" or "There are fifty-four sculptures by prize-winning artists on the exterior".
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Early to mid-20th century section: "News outlets reported shortly afterwards some of the building's "marble" was made of plaster, although this was consistent with the construction contract calling for "plaster enrichment". Suggest changing to "Shortly after its opening, news outlets reported that
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Thank you for your comments. I've been able to address all of them now except for one. I believe the hill is a natural feature, but I'm not sure why the sentence is worded like that. The bottom of the hill was near a lake, though I have to confirm this with other sources.
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I don't know what that one book citation was doing in the sources section, so I moved it to the only place where it's used in the body (all the other books are in the body as well). Meanwhile, I've moved all the magazines to the "Sources" section.
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The problem is that I can't find any info on whether the power plant is still operating. I do know the building gets its power from the NYC power grid, but I don't know whether it also has its own generator, hence why it's worded like this.
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Critical reception and landmark designations: Optional, but wonder if you would add a beginning sentence stating that reception to the building's design has been largely positive. Are there any negative commentary on the building design?
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This may well be the case, but I cannot currently obtain a non-manipulated image of the interior of the lobby (I can technically access the exterior, but I am not a NYC government employee or someone doing business inside).
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I've added a sentence to that effect. There weren't many negative criticisms of this building, which is fortunate because it really is a gem near New York City Hall. (I suspect people were too focused on the ugliness of
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This page was promoted as a Good
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Thanks for the comments. I have addressed both of these, although I think the NYC Landmark status is important, since the
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some of the (etc)". I would suggest splitting off the mention of the plaster enrichment construction contract as another sentence (e.g. Nevertheless/However, this was consistent with etc).
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Am I allowed to nominate another page for FAC? This nomination has 3 prose supports (not counting ZKang's comment of his willingness to support), as well as an image and source review. –
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Both are public domain in the US (where this building is located) since they were created in or before 1907. I have added the appropriate templates to the
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I could not find sources that described why the names were different. These were the names used on maps though.
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marble interiors - what's with the external link? Best Wishes,
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Thanks for the comments. I have addressed them now.
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