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664:"The album was supported by four singles, "All About That Bass", which reached number one in 58 countries and became the best-selling song by a female artist in the 2010s, and the US Billboard Hot 100 top-15 singles "Lips Are Movin", "Dear Future Husband", and "Like I'm Gonna Lose You", the latter of which features John Legend and peaked at number one in Australia, New Zealand, and Poland." Too many and's and too long a sentence. I suggest splitting it. 833:
The critical reception section somewhat suffers from the "A said B, C said D" where one opinion is listed after another, making it repetitive at places. For example, the second section begins with some reviewers deeming the album repetitive and ends with a certain critic criticizing this aspect. It
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and capped 2015 as one of the best-selling albums of the year. Critics were however proven right in doubting Trainor's overall commercial sustainability. This article is the centrepiece to several other FAs I have written in this topic. It's pretty lengthy so thanks a lot to everyone who will take
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From sentence "Trainor wrote songs she wished existed when she attended high school" in the lead, I got the impression that Trainor wished these songs existed when she was a high-schooler (i.e. another artist had done it), but "she wished she had written some of its songs before she attended high
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the UK". I would suggest separating them with a semi-colon: "Title received certifications, including 3× Platinum in the US, Australia, and Canada; 2× Platinum in Poland; Platinum+Gold in Mexico; Platinum in Denmark, New Zealand, Sweden, and the UK; and Gold in the Netherlands."
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This is my last comment. Thank you for your patience with my review and I am glad that I could help with all of the different FACs. You have. put a lot of work into these articles and you should proud of that, and I am looking forward to whatever you work on in the future.
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I get that and that's what I am trying to emphasize. The second paragraph introduces the repetition criticism. As such, the reader knows that the section is going to be about this so a sentence fragment like "criticized the repetitiveness" is
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I'm unsure how to work this into prose as it does not seem to have drawn commentary from any secondary sources; I don't recollect this having been released along with the album either so the given release date looks sketchy as
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in mind and each paragraph tries to drive home the point expressed in its first sentence. I understand your point about repeating the exact same wording, though, so I have rephrased this particular example.
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They were tired of the electronic dance music that populated contemporary hit radio -- suggestion instead of "populated" - They were tired of the electronic dance music predominant in contemporary hit radio
1581:"It was the best-selling song by a female artist in the 2010s, with 5.8 million digital downloads sold in the US" I have not checked the source but this claim seems dubious. I think the claim should go to 407: 349:
That is fair. I does look odd to me as well. I have seen this kind of thing for an album before, but this one in particular seems off. I only wanted to ask as I remember randomly finding on Spotify.
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She deleted her independent albums in the build-up to its release. -- did she delete/remove from her YouTube channels/social media accounts, etc? If so, perhaps you can specify where it was removed.
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I am leaving this up as a placeholder. I do have one comment, but I will post a full review sometime tomorrow. I am looking forward to reading the article tomorrow. Best of luck with this FAC!
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I would like a status update on this nomination if possible, since it is coming up on a month and everything seems to be in order. Hope you are having a great start to your week.--
692:"Trainor was unsure about becoming a recording artist herself; her father recalled: "She thought she was one of the chubby girls who would never be an artist"." The source needs a 384:
Thank you for getting through this pretty big article so quickly and the kind words! I hope you are having a great week so far and I look forward to your future works as well.--
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PR Newswire (ref 73) is a generally unreliable source (per consensus on the Reliabillity notice-board on WP) so I would strongly recommend switching it out with something else
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I'd go for something like "They chose not to follow contemporary trends" or "They were dissatisfied with"; "tired of" seems more of spoken speech rather than written speech.
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That should complete my review of the article's relevant media usage. Only one qualm re updating caption which is reasonably fixable. But that won't hinder this from being
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In the critical reception section, I think you’ve used the word "opined" four times, perhaps tweak a few of it to avoid repetition. (e.g. wrote, commented, said, etc)
783:"It was the best-selling song by a female artist in the 2010s, selling 5.8 million digital downloads in the US" - repetition of "selling" within a close proximity. 40: 841:
I intended "Title's repetitiveness drew criticism" as a summary statement for the second paragraph so the repetition here is intentional. It is written with
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parameter. If the quote ends in full stop in the source then the full stop in the article needs to be placed inside the quotation mark ("...artist.") per
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I'll add a note regarding this. The 2019 Nielsen Year-end report shows "All About That Bass", followed by "Shake It Off", "Dark Horse" and then "Hello".
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I have moved the image up for the time being which fixes the sandwiching issue. I will remove it if multiple reviewers share this opinion, though.
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I would like to massively thank you for providing a review to all FACs in this topic! These are addressed, excited for further comments from you
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I've reverted to the source wording here which hopefully gives more clarity. Unfortunately secondary sources weren't very specific with this.
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could benefit from some rearranging so we don't have a "some reviewers criticized the repetitiveness ... critic A called it repetitive".
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on prose. The Digital Songs ranking is indeed weird, but the source cited does say this is the best-selling 2010s female single.
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I'm not sure I understand why this would be considered informal so I'll open up to suggestions on what wording you'd like to see.
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Trainor's appearances on popular television talk shows -- perhaps we can omit "popular" as this can be perceived as subjective.
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Thank you for addressing this for me. It looks better to me and I think it is best to leave the image up to other reviewers.
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before Canada to clarify that 3x Pl. ends here. The same applies to places like "Platinum in Denmark, New Zealand, Sweden,
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The lead only mentions negative reviews for the album. Are there positive reviews/trends worth mentioning there as well?
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there's only one ref which uses trans-title, though I would recommend they all do, it should be consistent either way
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Thanks for the comment. I hope you can complete this asap so the article can be promoted before August slips away.--
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Thank you for addressing everything! I will read through the article again later today if that is okay with you.
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Here are some further comments. I will do another read-through once the above comments have been addressed.
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the use of a photo of Trainor singing at the Jingle Ball 2014 is unjustified. I'd consider removing it.
743:"The standard edition of Title includes 11 tracks; the deluxe edition includes" - suggest replacing one 801:, in February 2015, and concluded in Milan in June 2015." February 2015 and June 2015 need NBSP per 678:"As a teenager, Trainor's parents.." This sounds like her parents were teenagers when this happened. 406:
this FAC for promotion based on the prose. If possible, I would greatly appreciate any feedback for
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Relating this back to the lead, if it was indeed the best-selling female digital song of the 2010s
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We have four instances of "debuted at number one" in two paragraphs. Some variety would be good.
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If you have the time or inclination, I'd appreciate your feedback as well on a music related
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That's all I got. Article is well-written, detailed and has all the elements. Great work! --
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has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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The interview template might be worth use for ref 51 as well (Scott Simon and Trainor)
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licensed to a public domain. Caption could use adding year/month-year of performance.
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A track-by-track commentary edition of the album was released (which can be found on
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Thank you very much for the media review! I have added years to the file captions.--
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Do we really need the ellipsis at the end of the quote " "I want to help myself"?
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offered a full scholarship to the Berklee College of Music -- at the Berklee..
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This refers to a harmony with three intervals, I guess. I've added a link to
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I just went ahead and added it to every ref using the "language" parameter.
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school" suggests that she wished that she herself had written it earlier.
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comprising music videos and behind-the-scenes footage -- comprising of
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for a song length of 2:55, believe the 17-second audio sample meets
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I have now made this consistent after consulting the source wording.
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According to Jim Farber of New York Daily News -- Jim Farber of the
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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She performed at award shows including -- comma before including
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applies? The person credited as the author also seems to have
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Will review this soon. One preliminary comment I have is per
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Indeed, I seem to have missed it being an interview somehow
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for ref 9, as the text being sourced is not all by Kawashima
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While a teenager, Trainor's parents nudged -- As a teenager
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in its entirety to make this completely clear for readers.
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Publisher for ref 20 should be Ryan Seacrest Productions
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Down to the end of Release and promotion. More later.
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thin women, I think it may be beneficial to spell out
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Let me know if any concerns remain.-- 134:the time to give their feedback here.-- 1460:"They were tired of" a little informal 1021:File:Meghan Trainor 2015 (cropped).jpg 693: 1015:File:Meghan Trainor (15812368967).jpg 164:File:Meghan Trainor (15812368967).jpg 7: 1387:Looks great! Sorry for the delay. 1219:(ref 5) and N Magazine (ref 7) are 158:I think there could be some minor 118:'s debut major-label studio album 24: 1254:This is an interview so I guess 1230:and replace N Magazine with the 402:Thank you for the kind words. I 485:Done. 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Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates
featured article nomination
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured article candidates
Gog the Mild
FACBot
talk

Title (album)
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Lips

03:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Meghan Trainor
one-hit wonderdom
Billboard Hot 100
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03:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
sandwitching issues
File:Meghan Trainor (15812368967).jpg
File:Title.ogg
Aoba47
talk
16:34, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Aoba47
talk
22:45, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
ballad
sentimental ballad

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