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After a gestation period of about 28 days, two to five young are born,... Two to five young are born after a gestation of about 28 days and they reach sexual maturity....? Or, animals reach sexual maturity at ... and after a gestation period of about 28 days, two to five young are born..... (might
807:"Both Robertsonian translocations and pericentric inversions are needed to explain the difference between the two groups." Since there is a fair bit of discussion about differences in karyotype, I don't think it would be out of place to have a sentence or two to explain what these fancy words are 462:
Added "in Spanish" for those two. Also fixed the number of Weksler 2006, here and on all other pages with this mistake. Thanks a lot for catching that. Can I blame it on the fact that the copy of the paper I always use has lost the cover page? I also noticed that
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Yes; rodents are not like birds which can just get lost while flying about, so when someone finds a rat somewhere, it means the area is part of the distribution. Musser et al. (1998, p. 157) also explicitly say the distribution starts in northwestern Costa
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It's not necessarily the hair that gives the color, and I don't see the problem with "sparsely haired"; it's not an unprecedented way to describe rice rat tails (Weksler et al., 2006, p. 3, also use it), and it doesn't seem overly technical to
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There's nothing else I could find. The only things that could perhaps be added are some further ways from the IUCN to say "it's fine"—the Red List account also says no conservation measures are needed and the population is stable.
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Apparently. Measurements are usually taken in the field, because preserved skins may shrink or do other weird things, and the people who collected the sample in Ecuador apparently had a protocol that did not include measuring the
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section is stubby - if there is anything at all that can be added that'd be very helpful (any confirmation that numbers appear to be constant/increasing etc. no threats from intriduced spp.) if not never mind.
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Fixed the tense of that sentence. I recall that it complicated population estimates in Fleming's study, but I think we can just keep it as a fact from their biology. Why it is so, Fleming didn't say.
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sparsely haired... there's a better way to say that. But I don't know what it is. The tail is almost as long as the head, with little hair; the hair it has is brown on top and white underneath...?
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It's unclear what the Talamanca here refers to (discussed in Musser et al. 1998), and it's most likely a village that is apparently not mentioned on Knowledge, so I kept it unlinked.
174:, which just became an FA. It doesn't have whiskers as striking as that species, but for once we do actually know a fair bit about its biology. I am looking forward to all reviews. 397:
skipping to reproduction, the last sentence before you list all the parasites, where Fleming estimates age, etc. That is reaaallllllly long with a lot of ands.
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Everyone asks this. :-) The problem is that "Talamanca" has several meanings and the one meant here is a small village that does not appear in Knowledge.
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has multiple meanings, and the one intended here (fide Musser et al., 1998, who discuss it) is a village that doesn't seem to be anywhere on Knowledge.
699:"Males move more and have larger home ranges than females." Do the 1st three words mean the males are less sedentary (just seems a bit odd to me)? 1009: 1000: 980: 970: 945: 926: 908: 890: 871: 759:"The fur is short, dense and soft;" clarify what species we're talking about here; the end of the previous paragraph mentions a bunch of rats 646: 635: 617: 597: 587: 565: 538: 525: 471: 456: 424: 415: 232: 209: 200: 178: 160: 30: 17: 534:
Marine mammals can swim about, and sea lions in particular are common in captivity; neither is true for rice rats. Thanks for supporting.
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in color." I appreciate the wikt link, but maybe gloss as well so I don't have to open a new page to find out what this word means
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but in T. talamancae the tail is longer and the hindfeet shorter... but the T. Talamancae have longer tails and shorter hindfeet?
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off the coast of Cornwall, for example), but for this species I assume that escapes are unlikely, so I'll accept that
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Extra pair. In sigmodontines, such supernumerary ribs don't articulate with the vertebrae if I understand correctly.
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Well, lowland forests are in the lowlands; isn't that apparent? It doesn't occur in montane forest; there we've got
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Specimens that were once captured tend to be captured more frequently than those that have never been captured
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link braincase; why not use the simpler "whiskers" for the lead (and perhaps pipe a link to vibrissae)?
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This rice rat from Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador is the closest relative of
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more later. Oh, I made a couple of minor tweaks. If I messed it up, please forgive me and revert.
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worthwhile to link home range, gestation, parasites, sexual maturity, and conservation concern?
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Done, and glossed "vibrissae" (I prefer to use that term because it occurs more in the sources).
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until 1983... wish there was another way to say it was "lumped with miscellaneous rats under
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above, below. Do you mean back and sides are reddish brown, and belly is buff to white?
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is the real long-whiskered rice rat—this is just its slightly less accomplished sister.
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Yes, Gardner deserves an article, and I don't know why I didn't link to his article.
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come close to its range, but are not known to quite reach it, so it's not possible.
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It's strongly suggestive that there are multiple species within what we now call
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Can't really see the problem here; neither wording seems superior over another.
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Lead. populations, which are now considered synonyms. populations? or names....
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last paragraph of lead is rather choppy, could use a bit of polish prose-wise
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Overall, just tiny quibbles and a hair's breadth from being over the line.
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Wexler: the bulletin number is 296 not 196 (how's that for due diligence?)
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forest." If you want, you could pipe these directly to the more specific
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Yes, that's pretty common in animals. Males move around to find females.
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The variation in chromosome count I found intriguing. Is that unusual?
751:"...but is not known to overlap with T. talamancae." overlap in range? 922:. But polymorphism within a single species is not unusual in rodents. 337:
Question: do these critters interbreed (when geographically possible)?
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except for one record from the far northwest (in Guanacaste Province)
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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Linked everything except the last, which has nothing to link to.
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lives on the ground" avoid abbreviations at start of paragraph
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Foreign language sources should be identified (Linares? Tinra?)
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They are about as large.... They are similar in size to the...?
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Not that we know. It has ample opportunity to interbreed with
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I don't really see a problem with the current wording here.
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I don't find that argument totally convincing (I've seen a
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no-one bothered to measure the Ecuadorian's rat's ears??
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I've been to Talamance, how come I missed this (:  ?
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Otherwise, all sources look good, no further issues.
834:Linked to the forest articles (not coniferous, but 378:I can't see how that is better than what is there. 1019:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. 256:Was intended to refer to "names"; now clarified. 43:. No further edits should be made to this page. 653:Reid 2009 is not listed in "Literature cited" 1025:No further edits should be made to this page. 490:— Does one record justify the mapping shown? 235:ah, the promised rat with the long whiskers. 29:The following is an archived discussion of a 8: 368:Why? The wording there is seems more simple. 976:Thanks for reviewing; I've answered above. 815:"It is a forest species and occurs in both 122: 41:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates 883:- I'd link or explain this in the lead. 125: 115: 324:should Talamanca Costa Rica be linked? 18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates 7: 990:Well detailed, not heavy on jargon. 626:- Consider everything struck below. 187:—No dead external links, but dab at 288:right. It's a chicken/egg argument. 557:— Any significance or explanation? 401:Changed an "and" into a semicolon. 345:, but there are no records of it. 301:The species remained lumped under 24: 886:It is both linked and explained. 642:Thanks for the thorough review. 467:in fact has the same mistake. 261:first sentence is pretty long 1: 281:be chicken and egg argument). 223:Comments are all addressed. 205:Fixed, thanks for checking. 856:having a read-through now. 31:featured article nomination 1042: 663:Talamancan montane forests 478:Support and three comments 897:Should Talamanca link to 72:Transandinomys talamancae 65:Transandinomys talamancae 1022:Please do not modify it. 1010:04:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC) 1001:23:45, 6 June 2010 (UTC) 981:04:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC) 971:06:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC) 946:04:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC) 927:04:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC) 909:04:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC) 891:04:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC) 872:06:03, 6 June 2010 (UTC) 770:"... bases of the hairs 647:06:35, 3 June 2010 (UTC) 636:14:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC) 618:04:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC) 598:07:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC) 588:06:35, 25 May 2010 (UTC) 566:07:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC) 539:15:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC) 526:12:43, 25 May 2010 (UTC) 472:12:23, 23 May 2010 (UTC) 457:12:00, 23 May 2010 (UTC) 425:07:51, 23 May 2010 (UTC) 416:00:04, 23 May 2010 (UTC) 274:Yes, clarified a little. 241:Transandinomys bolivaris 233:16:24, 24 May 2010 (UTC) 210:19:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC) 201:19:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC) 179:11:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC) 171:Transandinomys bolivaris 161:11:28, 22 May 2010 (UTC) 36:Please do not modify it. 899:Cordillera de Talamanca 316:Lumped is so inelegant. 593:Thanks for reviewing. 420:Thanks for reviewing! 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