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646:. If you want to know specific information about this articles references I can elaborate on them for you, but it is all pretty much there in the references section. If you ask a more direct question about the references in this article I will be glad to answer it. The frequency of citation is a good indication of the primariness of the reference, or the amount this article is indebted to each source. As for inline cites they are used in abundance in recently promoted articles, looking at some of them now with your question in mind, I don't see any that have references separated and classified as primary and secondary. I understand the reasoning for this to be that separating sources rather than linking them in line could create confusion as the text evolves and imply that they apply to the entire text and to what other may writers contribute at any given time. Using inline citations is more exact as to 'who said what'. Such is the nature of Knowledge, it is collaborative, and if someone else adds information, it might appear to be attributed to any of the references listed in a separate list, when it may or may not be. Using inline cites relates the facts directly to the sources, and can even give page numbers for attribution and further reading. Regards, 626:, I would request or ask the reason for not seperating your primary references into a seperate section. As it stands the research literature used for this subject is merged with the citations making it hard to identify whether the sources were used for the sake of putting a citation near a couple sentences or if they were responsible for most of the text. With this the reader might know if there are more/better sources for the subject that can be incorporated, whether the sources are reliable according to his/her own research and/or the reader can see which books deal heavily with the subject if he/she wishes to pursue further reading. Thank you. 412:"Although Lenin was not an enthusiast for avant garde art, projects were made at Vkhutemas, and by faculty and students in his honor and to further his politics." - confusing passive voice. Try "Although Lenin was not an enthusiast for avant garde art, Vkhutemas faculty and students made projects to honor him and further his politics." 787::**Thanks Tony, I'll have a look tonight (D.Recorder is on vacation). As far as I know, the main contributors are American and British (excepting NVO who's Russian I think) - what do you mean 'native speakers' - Russian or English? "Read about single and double quotes" - do you mean quotation marks or quotations from people? -- 733:
Ideas awkwardly jammed into this sentence: "Constructivism was developed as an art form in graphics and sculpture, but it had architecture or construction rather as the underlying subject matter, and was present throughout the school." "But" is a problem. So is "rather". The last point doesn't run
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Hello. I see this is a broader issue than this particular candidate page can resolve. I don't see your question as specific to this article, as what you are noticing is customary with current featured articles so may be applied to any of them. You can see this by viewing them on the main page, and
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This article is about a Russian design school from the 20s. Many thanks to everyone who has contributed to it so far. I feel that this article meets the criteria for featured article, and if not, will do so by the end of this FAC. Thanks in advance for your comments. Regards,
329:"A tendency towards working, functional designs with luxuries minimized resulted from this push for design economy." More confusing passive voice. Change to "This push for design economy resulted in a tendency towards working, functional designs with minimized luxuries. " 721:
Fixed. I think there's some question mark about exatly what Rossine was teaching in this part of the course - I've replaced it to read "In the early 1920s this basic course consisted of the following: ... 8) tutelage by Wladimir Baranoff-Rossine"
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Replaced with two sentences - "Whilst constructivism was ostensibly developed as an art form in graphics and sculpture, it had architecture and construction as its underlying subject matter. This influence pervaded the school."
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Thanks for your prompt response - I've replaced my 'whilst's with 'while's (my old english teacher has a lot to answer for) and standardised the captions. What needs to happen to move your 'cautious neutral' to 'rapturous
669:. It's an interesting and worthy article on an unusual subject. I'd like to see it succeed, but it's not well enough written yet. Seek help from native speakers in this field. Here are random samples of problems. 191:"school was reorganised which included a" - slightly off grammatically. The word "which" should relate back to a noun antecedent, but there is none here. So you have to say, "school was reorganized -- a 594:
I implemented what you suggested, thank you for such a thorough reading. I asked for clarification from other editors on one item I was unsure of and for more explanation of why Melnikov quit abruptly.
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An important part of the new teaching method which was developed at Vkhutemas, and was made compulsory for all students, and independently of future specialization, was a preliminary basic course.
153:: This is a generally well-written article. The research and coverage are good. But it seems that there are primarily some grammar and copy editing (and few MOS things) that need a little work. 80:
Excellent, erudite and interesting article. I wonder if the lead might expand slightly on "It was dissolved in 1930" - this seems a little abrupt and a little flavour of the 'why' might help. --
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other candidates on the candidate page. For a general discussion on the virtues of different methods of referencing and how they relate to featured articles, you might get a better response at
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A preliminary basic course was an important part of the new teaching method that was developed at Vkhutemas, and was made compulsory for all students, regardless of their future specialization.
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This sentence: "Under this reorganization the 'artistic' content of the basic course was reduced to one term, when at one point it was two years." appears twice in the paragraph.
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It was dissolved in 1930, after numerous political pressures in the later years. The school's faculty, students, and legacy were dispersed into as many as six other schools.
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Better; surprised you like "whilst" rather than the plain, modern "while". Some of the captions aren't real sentences, and MOS says not to use a period in those cases.
700:"Akin to the Bauhaus' basic course at which all first year students had to attend"—The apostrophe looks very odd. Try "s's" if you need one at all. You don't attend 188:"and architecture; the industrial" - It would be better to join this as one sentence since they are the same topic. Replace the semi-colon with "and" or ", while" 482:
Very good. However, just a couple instances intrigue the reader. For example "Melnikov quit Vkhutemas" - why? This statement is so jolting, and unexplained.
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The article doesn't currently use "Class-based" as a compound adjective - I assume you meant for us to do so, in which case I have fixed it. --
355:"which was focused more on engineering after acquiring the institute" - "which, after acquiring the institute, was focused more on engineering" 30: 17: 156: 273:
In the sentence that begins "In the early 20s this basic...", some of the words in the list start getting capitalization for no reason.
853: 643: 639: 425:" were the first to train" - first where? In Europe? In the world? This claim should also be referenced or removed. 718:"In the early 1920s this basic course consisted of the following: ... 8) was by Wladimir Baranoff-Rossine."—Huh? 185:"industrial faculties, the art" - that comma should be a semi-colon, period, or colon (either of them would work) 393:"between Zholtovsky's classicism and Ladovsky's rationalism" - Classicism and Rationalism should be capitalized 856: 838: 826: 812: 802: 791: 776: 767: 756: 742: 726: 711: 693: 679: 653: 630: 614: 602: 586: 505: 493: 251: 239: 146: 127: 113: 104: 84: 71: 205:" - This sentence is confusing, mostly because of it's passive voice construction. Rewrite it this way: 650: 611: 599: 531: 502: 490: 248: 236: 124: 101: 68: 406:"example, 'The true" - say who said this, or it sounds like Knowledge is saying it (which would be POV) 627: 850: 195:
which included..." You could also rephrase the sentence entirely. But, right now it isn't correct.
578: 809: 788: 773: 753: 739: 723: 708: 690: 676: 110: 81: 323:"of the Communist party, who" - Party should be capitalized. Who should be replaced by "that" 835: 822:: An interesting and well written page a good example of what a Featured article should be. 647: 608: 596: 499: 487: 245: 233: 121: 98: 65: 847: 387:"the past; then, use it in abstract drafts; finally" - replace the semi-colons with commas 583: 539: 143: 823: 527: 799: 764: 182:"merger of two schools; the Moscow" - that should be a colon, not a semi-colon 57: 576:
When these issues are addressed, note the changes here and notify me on my
384:" leader of rationalist architecture" - Rationalist should be capitalized 364:"organization with three resident" - resident should be plural (resident 557:
punctuation. There is at least two instances where this wasn't done.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
686:"Constructivism, Rationalism, and Suprematism."—Why the upper-case? 39:
Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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I have addressed these two items, hopefully to your satisfaction.
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I elaborated on this and added more context so it wasn't jolting.
457: 361:"Жолтовского), at the same" - replace the comma with a double dash 313:"new type, artists capable" - replace the comma with a double dash 299:"painting, to sculptural works, to exhibition" - remove the commas 435:"award winning student work" - award-winning should be hyphenated 342:"utilitarian lines, Stepanova" - replace the comma with a period 752:
Fixed with a bit of a rewrite of the surrounding sentences. --
371:"Nikolai Dokuchayev etc.)." - rm the period in the parenthesis 374:"hold to Zholtovsky, at the same time" - "hold to Zholtovsky 326:"for 'working class' elements" should be followed by a period 445:"this reorganization the basic" - comma after reorganization 198:
In the subheading "Basic Course", course should be lowercase
466:"The modernist movements" - Modernist should be capitalized 285:"art school, which included" - "art school that included" 232:
I don't know, I asked another editor for clarification.
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3. Properly placed, tagged and/or rationalized images?:
279:" art, Kazimir Malevich joined " - comma after Malevich 119: 390:"school, the Constructivists" - double dash, not comma 418:"book, Constructivism published" - move the comma to 339:"by Konstantin Melnikov, and its" - remove the comma 316:"and functionality in society" - "and functionality 332:"moving parts, were standardized" - "moving parts, 551:2d. Sufficient inline citations? Very good here. 438:""Institute" instead of "Studios"" - ""Institute" 864:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. 672:MOS breach: read about single and double quotes. 553:Remember, however, the citation should always go 428:"it has been significantly less promoted" - "it 358:"Workshop which lasted" - "Workshop that lasted" 276:"and diverse media" - "working in diverse media" 874:. No further edits should be made to this page. 352:"and Suprematism, were also" - remove the comma 43:. No further edits should be made to this page. 415:"for a Lenin Institute," - period, not a comma 409:"am an old man."." - remove one of the periods 399:"departments, the dialectics" - "departments 288:"architecture, examples are" - "architecture 29:The following is an archived discussion of a 8: 396:"Golosov in 1923, spoke" - remove the comma 872:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates 282:"group Unovis of the" - comma after Unovis 41:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates 159:, I recommend addressing the following: 749:Basic course whose? It's not a person. 582:. Thank you for your work so far. — 381:"modernist art" - capitalize Modernist 302:"print, exhibition design," - "print, 18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates 7: 486:I asked another editor to elaborate. 214:maximul - Is that the correct word? 763:"Class-based"—see hyphens in MOS. 24: 345:"this was 'with the" - "this was 834:. A solid article all around. -- 644:Knowledge talk:Featured articles 244:I think it was just misspelled. 545:2b. Hierarchical headings? Yes 157:four featured article criteria 1: 640:Knowledge talk:Citing sources 432:significantly less promoted" 857:13:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 839:10:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 827:09:29, 14 August 2007 (UTC) 813:14:31, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 803:14:11, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 792:09:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 777:10:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 768:07:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 757:10:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 743:10:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 727:10:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 712:10:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 694:09:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 680:11:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC) 514:1c. Factually accurate? Yes 211:"early 20s" - "early 1920s" 31:featured article nomination 891: 654:00:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC) 631:15:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC) 615:20:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC) 603:19:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC) 587:16:48, 3 August 2007 (UTC) 548:2c. Table of contents? Yes 506:20:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC) 494:19:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC) 252:20:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC) 240:19:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC) 147:15:55, 6 August 2007 (UTC) 128:01:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC) 114:09:38, 4 August 2007 (UTC) 105:19:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC) 85:13:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC) 72:22:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC) 867:Please do not modify it. 36:Please do not modify it. 570:4. Appropriate length?: 164:1. Basic criteria met?: 52:15:06, 14 August 2007. 142:Great job everyone!-- 109:Sounds good to me. -- 480:1b. Comprehensive? 454:Technical Workshops 450:Technical Workshops 336:were standardized" 526:2. Complies with 378:at the same time" 306:exhibition design 168:1a. Well written? 882: 869: 667:Cautious neutral 517:1d. Neutral? Yes 118:I fine-tuned it. 48:The article was 38: 890: 889: 885: 884: 883: 881: 880: 879: 878: 865: 558: 528:Manual of style 520:1e. Stable? 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Knowledge:Featured article candidates
featured article nomination
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Vkhutemas
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Joopercoopers
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four featured article criteria
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