595:(my italics), that name should be supplied at the "work" parameter, and the publisher if any should go in the "publisher" parameter. This is illustrated in the examples, and results in the website name being italicised. Is the objection to italicisation something specific to FAC, of which I have little experience? Or are you saying that the output generated by the cite templates doesn't comply with the MOS? and if so, shouldn't someone mention it at the relevant talk page. Or have I just misunderstood something as usual :-) cheers,
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Arsenal F.C.'s website states that "Firstly, as the VCC crest incorporated many separate elements introduced over a number of years, there was uncertainty surrounding its exact origination. Consequently, the Club was unable to copyright the crest." I've added this link to the image's description.
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The year-in-English-football "hidden" links, which readers will ignore, thinking they're plain year-links—I'm putting them in the "See also" section (unpiped), which is much more effective. Or ... see what I've done with the first one, which is now an explicit gateway to all of them. The rest could
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1c: The history section is noticeably light on references. A couple paragraphs are unreferenced, and a couple others have citations which don't appear to cover everything before them. Problems also exist with the references used; a couple sites used (Arseweb and
Arsenal Shirts) appear to be fan or
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History section. One paragraph on the first 33 years, two paragraphs covering 34 years from 1945-1979. It's not really recentism (Chapman's era also gets close attention, with a paragraph on 5 years in the 30s), and it's not entirely without basis, focussing on
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Sourced Wenger's long service and being first foreign manager. Removed best & worst manager by win percentage: it's an arbitrary choice of how to order managerial success, no idea how to briefly source it, and detailed figures are available at the
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and cite web: I will raise this at MOS, and you are the first to have noticed and pointed this out! The "Managers" section has problems; it has a citation needed tag, and we can't cite another Wiki article (Wiki is not a reliable source).
726:"Holloway, North London"—can we pipe so that "North London" isn't blue? If the reader hits "Holloway", they get a direct link to the broader geographical entity, don't they? Let's not dilute the valuable links at the top with "chain links".
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Are you kidding on the fourth point? There is nothing ambiguous about the description: the photo features a game (that is about to be played) at the
Emirates Stadium, and the occasion is the testimonial match of Dennis Bergkamp.
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has a link to "Woolwich" in your face when you go there. The blue can thus be reduced in this article: try to direct readers more specifically and judiciously to link-targets, and they'll be more likely to hit on
746:"Arsenal have a large fanbase, who hold a string of long-standing rivalries with several other clubs"—hold a string of awards/prizes, I was expecting. Perhaps simpler, like this: "which has long-standing ...".
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Some of the pipes are a little vague: "Southern" ... ah, that means "South of
England". Unless the boundary is important, why not bin the link and just write "first club in southern England"? Simpler for the
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The link to "British culture" seems far too vague. I can cope without the link, provided it's more specific further down (where more specific section- or daughter-article-links to Br cult could be provided).
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This is the oldest unreviewed sports FA, a fact which caused me to take a look at this article. What I found showed a few issues that, while not overwhelming, would be best resolved by the FAR process.
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719:—I think this is quite well written. Could do with a few fixes throughout, but not a long job. I'd like to see this work on and kept, if possible. Overlinking is a major problem.
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One thing I was confused by, your edit summary which said websites shouldn't be italicised. This article uses the cite templates for formatting. The documentation at
743:"drastic"—readers are unprepared for that. "dramatic"? Since I don't know the geography of London suburbs, I can't make out why it's less extreme. A mystery to me.
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