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168:(so as not to muck up this page) if you are interested. Please keep in mind that one of the main objectives of FAR is to improve articles, and being here is not a "punishment". Also, I hope you've noted from the FAR instructions that we can KEEP without FARC, which is an outcome that delights most of us here ;) Bst, 189:
I am a bit busy IRL these days, and do not have much wikitime to dedicate to this right now, especially not without a bit more detail on what is wrong. As I haven't kept track of everything that happened at MOS: could you point me to the major issues that you see? Also, not every sentence is followed
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I have cleaned up some of the more obvious problems with citations, switched to "surname, given name" format, and removed the optional publisher locations. Unfortunately several of the references include non-standard information and additional remarks, where I have no real clue how to improve them -
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Thank you for your list. I'll try to improve the messiness. Fortunately, there actually are page numbers in most citations to Saine's biography, but they are visible only in the wikitext, not in the displayed result. I do not recall why this is the case and whether they used to be displayed when the
638:- The notes are still a bit of a mess, with lots of problems in formatting and consistency. I'll start going through them as I have time, and then I'll do a read-through of the prose for any other problems. I'm hoping we don't have problems with missing page numbers from inaccessible sources. -- 542:, but the list should stay imo. Granted, it is a bit messy and borderline-useless for most average readers, but someone interested in in-depth research about Forster may find the information useful. I trimmed a few entries with no conceivable immediate usage and sorted the list. 163:
I'm thrilled to see people descending on the article for improvements, even though the talk page notice was ignored for more than two weeks, indicating that we had another older unwatched FA. Meegs, your suggestion is impractical for many reasons, which we could take up at
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or if it's even necessary. And I lack all of the older sources to add eventually missing details. Another look on the reference progress and additional advice would be great. I hope, we can give old articles a bit of leeway :), but can clean up some more if needed.
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by an inline citation, but if you could tell me where you would expect additional citations I am happy to go hunting through my Forster biographies. Sadly, my current university library doesn't seem to have a copy of Saine's biography, but I'll see what I can do. —
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Maybe in the future you could ping the appropriate projects, rather than just putting a comment on the talk page and hoping someone might notice? We didn't know there was a problem until you pinged us today with news of the review. :P Will see what I can do.
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Italics should not be used here, and I'm wondering if this can be reversed (that is, put the English version, with a footnote to the original ???) ("The freedom of the press finally reigns within these walls where the printing press was invented.) See
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to keep on progress. Is anyone willing/able to finish this up? There are still inconsistent citations, minor amounts of united text, italics issues (e.g. quotes), and Overlinking, at least.
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Citations are incomplete or incorrently written. All sources need a publisher, all websources need an accessdate, and author and date should be supplied whenever available, also ...
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Back from the dead (marking exams and other business meaning no wikitime at all), back to normal not-enough wikitime. Will report on progress as it happens, hopefully during July. —
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on common terms known to most English speakers and not needed for understanding of this article (samples, Latin, England, philosophy, there is more) and link on first occurrence.
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I am having difficulties with the "Works" section, it is a completely random mess in my opinion. I am uncertain how to best approach it between OR and copyvio concerns. —
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I have moved this here to clarify who thinks what about whether this article is kept or removed. So please comment here if you think it now meets FA criteria.
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I am still giving this 100% of my wikitime, but that hasn't been much at all (travelling, work, sick kids). I hope I'll get through the citations next week. —
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article passed FA. On the whole, the article has been quite stable since it became a FA, but I certainly agree it no longer looks like the best we can do. —
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It does look a lot better (thank you!) and does not compare too poorly to some other Works section in FA-class biographies. Something like
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Yes-- happy to see people willing to work here! I will start a list, not yet comprehensive, and add to it as issues are addressed.
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This is a 2006 promotion that has not been maintained to standard; it has uncited text and some MOS issues, as mentioned on talk in
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Citations do not have a consistent style (as but one example, look at the many different ways author names are rendered)
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WP:ITALICS, "page numbers and other ref details", and "sorting of works" in a meaningful way is above my paygrade.
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can you let me know your feelings on the article now? I am keeping a coordinator hat on so I can close this....
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Improved dash-usage (opted for spaced en-dash), but this will need another look (especially in refs).
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Check image captions (for example, The Pinnacle of liberty, A satire by James Gillray)
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Thanks, Kusma; I will be traveling for a few weeks if you don't hear back from me.
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called "Freunde der Freiheit und Gleichheit" ("Friends of Freedom and Equality")
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This is not a complete list, but is enough to get started. Regards,
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Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at
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Only a minority of references use cite-templates currently.
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I could try to transform references into cite-templates -
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in relation to words as words, translations, quotes, etc:
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What is the order of the Works section? Alpha, chrono?
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if nobody is objecting against that citation style.
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Fixed all dead links, captions and a few overlinks.
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Knowledge:Featured article review
featured article review
Knowledge talk:Featured article review
Casliber
FACBot
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Georg Forster
Kusma
WP Libraries
WP Germany
WP Plants
WP Journalism
WP Birds
URFA
April 2015.
SandyGeorgia
Talk
14:47, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
MeegsC
talk
15:10, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
WT:FAR
SandyGeorgia
Talk
16:12, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Kusma
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13:03, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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