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The Stuyvesant Standard seems to be defunct - I can't find any current information or any issues since 2009 - so I've removed that section. I've also flagged Other Publications as unreferenced so we don't lose track of it, while I look for references.
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I don't believe the individual images are included in FAR, although their use in the article obviously is. I would assert that the use of all these images, so long as they continue to exist on Knowledge (XXG), is appropriate in this article.
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27 out of 124, or about 21%. About half of those are for cases where a school web page or document is the authoritative reference, but, especially for the clubs and publications, the rest are certainly primary (and weak).
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I pitched in on the 2008 FAR for this article, and it seemed to be in fine shape then. As we all know, 4 years is a lifetime on-wiki - and it has deteriorated. I'll see if I can take a crack at it next week.
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The article's structure is very sloppy, with loads of very short paragraphs and standalone sentences. A major copy edit is needed. (For instance, nearly every sentence in "History" begins with "In …".)
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This media file is in the public domain in the United States. This applies to U.S. works where the copyright has expired, often because its first publication occurred prior to January 1, 1923.
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I'm still seeing a lot of cleanup tags on this article. Can we get an update on whether these are going to be addressed or whether the article should be moved to the FARC stage? Thanks,
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POV-tagged "Culture Festive" section removed. How much diversity can there be in a 72% Asian, 23% White student body? :-) If someone finds references, it can alwasy come back.
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The article was promoted to FA in 2006, and kept through review in 2008. It is clearly unchecked in the past 4 years, as are many of the older-generation FAs.
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Another editor also raised concern that some of the text seems promotional. I tagged at least one section ("strength in areas such as math and science").
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s have been cleaned up. Those two both validly identify current states that will potentially change, but on a multi-year scale, not in the near future.
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page and shows the year they first competed, 2001 (being founded the year before as the season begins in January). If this is an improvement, make use.
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shows mostly simple cleanups, a few sections moved around, and very little deterioration. Some of the current state is the result of this FAR, but a
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I'd be happy to make a pass over the entire article fixing redirects and DAB-page-links. I do it from time to time, and I guess it's time again.
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Thanks for the notice. I will look into all of the above issues. I expect the article can be massaged back into FA shape and pass this review.
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I've made a pass through the article finally, and pulled together all of the short 'graphs I noticed. There are still a few
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I believe all comments above have been responded to. If there's more criticism of the article, I haven't seen it.
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shows that this article hasn't generally suffered the slings and arrows that most high school articles do.
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At this point, I believe the article cleanup has addressed every actionable comment that has been raised.
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There are still a few unsourced statements, and a lot of short paragraphs that I think should be combined.
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Scanned image of program from SING V, Stuyvesant High School, 1977. Program is from personal collection.
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There are still a bunch of potentially dated statements, but right now I see no other issues.
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I still see several unsourced sections and at least one . The intro's also a little short.
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Dubious lists ("Other publications" and "summary of floors") that are also unsourced.
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For the robotics team, StuyPulse, if you don't want to cite the team's website,
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I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby release it into the public domain
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Thanks. I'll take a pass across the whole article in the next few days.
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Ross hasn't made any updates to the article yet because he's been busy.
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Stuyvesant-library-interior and Danny-Jaye---Rothenberg-mem both say "
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Actually, the article hasn't changed much in the last four years. A
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There are some phrases that might also be construed as promotional.
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Fixed, along with all redirects. There were no other DAB links.
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Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at
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Okay, looks like we can keep this as FA now. I see no problems.
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found objectionable. Thank you for tagging that one section.
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for one section that seems like there ought to be more prose.
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similar comparison of post-2008-FAR and pre-2012-FAR versions
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URL fixed. There seems to be a fair use rational as well.
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I'm not aware of any requirement that images be "sourced" (
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Discussion raised 6 days ago on talk page with no action.
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I have removed all tagged material from the article.
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lacks a lot of refs and citations and is unsourced.
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