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It's not an issue of counting sources or "enough to get by": it's a question of whether everything that should be cited, is cited. As an example, last time I looked at it, the lead said 1,189 something, when the refs I found said 1,200 - could be rounding, we need to know. Also, I couldn't verify
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consensus to close early and if I don't see it, I move it. (A much greater problem would be closing as a keep and being told later that serious issues remained.) When moving, I don't give the more thorough look at the history etc. as when closing. If everyone involved is "keep" right now, we can
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I think I may have gotten most of the content from the National Park Service public domain cited; normally, the lead isn't cited, but since the text came directly from the NPS, I went ahead and cited it. That's probably all I can do for now.
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I'm noticing that most of the article was taken verbatim from the public domain (National Park Service), which means it must be cited to those websites it was taken from - for others working on the cites, look first there or via google.
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This is getting close. 89% wilderness needs to be cited (hard to verify), and most of History is uncited. There's a huge amount of work to be done on units of measurment - all need a non-breaking hardspace.
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It does look like we can cite a lot of it from the websources (which are quality sources) already there - sorry for all the edit conflicts, I was trying to get a basic ref structure in place.
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The 1,189 vs. 1,200 square mile stat needs to be verified, cited, and sorted out—we can't be stating two different sizes in the same article without explanation, even if it's only rounding.
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by the NPS. I'll dig them up and add more cites later; hopefully starting tomorrow and finishing a week from today. Any help with the measurements/numbers will be greatly appreciated. :) --
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Much work done by Sandy, Hike, myself and others to address the concerns put forward (mainly, a lack of inline cites). I beleive this article is now up to current FA standards and vote to
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A little bit of the summer/winter activity can be incorporated into the Activities section. The rest should be (re)moved. I'll try to help out with citations whenever I can. --
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I think that this article is well put together. It seems that, given the cursory glance I made, it is well put together, flows nicely, and has enough sources to get by.
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listy, See templates incorrectly used, photo galleries dominating text, layout needs work, has taken on an unencyclopedic tour guide tone in some parts.
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Alternately, you could spend some time on your other FAs that need to be cited, so they don't have to come here. (I've cited all I can in Yosemite.)
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Problem of size still needs to be resolved - the lead says 1,189 square miles (I can't find a source); body cites more common 1,200 square miles.
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Mav asked on my talk why this got moved down given much work. The move from FAR to FARC is always "least harm". I check if there is
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Well besides that though, it is put together nicely, and maybe some things need to be touched upon, like the lead and the sources.
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I found a couple sources for the 89% wilderness figure. I'm not sure how authorative they are though. Here's one.
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I agree that the summer/winter activity section can be turned into prose and rescued. I'll try and attempt that.
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The "Miscellaneous" section is actually trivia, that should be deleted or incorporated into appropriate sections.
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I'm wondering if others think Summer and winter activity sections should also be moved to the touristy article?
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Hm. Looks like plenty of other people are already working. To avoid edit conflicts I will work on getting
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I worked on SG's non-citation points (I think Mav will have to go back and add more references).
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ready for FAC and will come back here once things settle down. So far, great work. --mav
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I'll add the &nbsp when I have time, unless someone else gets to it first.
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I'm not clear on how to cite Google books, per a concern raised by Indon on the
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Yosemite National Park: A Natural History Guide to Yosemite and Its Trails
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I'll bring out the refs I used to flesh out this article and add cites. --
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More cites added and all Facts either fixed or removed. Please check. --
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the percent of wilderness. Those are only two examples from the lead.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at
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moved tourist destination list out into their own article:
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Visitor info belongs in Wikitravel, temporarily moved to
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I seem to have forgot three other references I used:
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Index

Knowledge:Featured article review
Yosemite National Park
featured article review
Knowledge talk:Featured article review
Yosemite National Park
Mav
California
Protected areas
SandyGeorgia
Talk
02:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
W3stfa11
02:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
WP:MSH
SandyGeorgia
Talk
02:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
hike395
10:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Commons:Yosemite National Park
List of Yosemite waterfalls
Talk:Yosemite National Park/Visitor Info
List of Yosemite destinations
SandyGeorgia
Talk
15:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
W3stfa11
18:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
hike395
21:24, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

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