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So if the title was vacated tomorrow it would go "tournament 1 / Reings / Combined reigns / tornament 2" - Title histories should be generally uniform in layout, especially within the same federation and not every title history has a tournament to crown the first champion, what if the tournament was
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I originally did all pure number columns as centered, until it was commented that it should be consistent through out and I really hate the "all centered" wrestling tables so I went back to everything being left aligned, is there a guideline that states that "all-number" columns should be centered
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I am nominating this for featured list because I feel that it is up to the standards of the FL requirements, including the recently added "Redlink" criteria (I've created 10 out of the 11 articles since the requirement was brought up). It's part of my drive to make a "Featured Topic" of all CMLL
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I'm not trying to be dificult here, but to me the general title history is the main point of the article, which is why I think that the title history list should be the first thing presented after the intro, I haven't seen a single title history where tournament brackets come before the title
317:"The Championship was created in 1992 and is the oldest still active Mini-Estrellas title in Mexico, both the Mexican National Mini-Estrella Championship and the AAA World Mini-Estrella Championship were created after CMLL" Remove "still" and change the comma to a semicolon. 1740:
The CMLL World Mini-Estrella Championship (Campeonato Mundial Mini-Estrella de CMLL in Spanish) is a professional wrestling championship promoted by the Mexican Lucha Libre wrestling-based promotion Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre (CMLL; Spanish for "World Wrestling
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even if the text is not? cause then I got something to call on if anyone makes a comment about the mixed alignments. I don't mind changing it, but I only feel like changing it once, not back and forth ya know?
466:"In 1999 it was decided to move the championship off then champion Damiancito el Guerrero and give it to Ultimo Dragoncito without an actual match taking place, a so called "Phantom title switch". "--: --> 1958:
When the creator of CMLL's Minis division, Antonio Peña, left CMLL to form his own promotion, Asistencia Asesoría y Administración, Mascarita Sagrada and a large number of other Minis left CMLL to join
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Here's the thing, however, this list is about the championship itself as well and not just the list of reigns. So the article should be arranged chronologically, like it is introduced in the lead. --
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The first Mini-Estrella champion was Mascarita Sagrada; he is also the wrestler to have held the title the shortest amount of time, at 110 days, and the only champion to have vacated the title.
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I don't quite understand. It would better if you had the Tournament first since that's what came first in the history of the title, then the reigns themselves which followed the tournament.--
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I would disagree, it's already mentioned how the first champion is crowned, then the title history and finally some details on the tournament that's not really necessary for the lead.
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Nope it's not, the title of the book is "Wrestling Title Histories", the chapter is "Mexico: EMLL CMLL Midget (miniestrella) Title" and the page is "396", all of which is there.
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In 1999, in a a so-called "Phantom title switch", then-champion Damiancito el Guerrero had his championship stripped and given to Ultimo Dragoncito without a match taking place.
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In 1999, in a so-called "Phantom title switch", then-champion Damiancito el Guerrero had the championship stripped and given to Ultimo Dragoncito without a match taking place.
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Being a professional wrestling championship, it is not won legitimately; it is instead won via a scripted ending to a match or awarded to a wrestler because of a storyline.
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A "Mini" is not necessarily a person with dwarfism, as in North American midget professional wrestling; it can also be very short wrestlers who work in the Mini division.
1089:– Took care of the last remaining grammar issue myself because it wasn't worth holding up support over. Similar in quality to the many other recent wrestling title FLs. 169:
There are only two redlinks left and they're not in the actual list, but I plan on turning them blue within the next two weeks as well to make it a "true blue" list.
1226:"were created after CMLL created their Mini-Estrella championship" A bit redundant, change to "were introduced after CMLL created their Mini-Estrella championship"-- 433:"With Mascarita Sagrada gone from the promotion the title was vacant until September 1992 where Orito won the title in a decision match against El Felinito. "--: --> 111: 1860:
I can't state that, I don't have a source on the definitive maximum size of someone billed as a Mini, I know the tallest champion but not the tallest Mini.
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After Mascarita Sagrada left the promotion, the title was vacant until September 1992, when Orito won the title in a decision match against El Felinito.
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Ultimo Dragoncito is the only wrestler to hold the title twice, , while Pequeño Olimpico has held the title the longest of any champion, at 1,442 days.
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I feel this should come first in the TOC, or at least under the "Title History" section like ==Title history== then ===Tournament=== then ===Reigns===
1464:"One wrestler has held the title twice, Ultimo Dragoncito, and..." - replace "and" with "while" perhaps, because it currently reads a little odd. 132:
Championships. Hopefully I've incorporated all the feedback from previous FLs to make this the best one yet (fingers crossed). Thanks in advance.
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It's standard tournament brackets often used for wrestling tournaments, I don't see the harm in the format, prose could be added if you'd like.
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It means that the source listed covers the general title history up through 1999, or until 2000 as stated. it's instead of citing it 20 times.
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One wrestler has held the title twice, Ultimo Dragoncito, and Pequeño Olimpico has held the title the longest of any champion, at 1,442 days.
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IMO it would be helpful if you stated that ever since the division was created there have been no wrestlers over the height of "#'#".--
1994: 1556:"Championship tournaments" section is a little odd for me. I don't think we need the graphic, you can state what happened in prose. 1008:"the title was vacant until September 1992, when Orito won the title in a match against El Felinito." Little repetition with "title". 2592:
The tables will still follow each other, the thing is its really random how the tournament is at the bottom of the article.--
252: 1180:"The Championship was created in 1992 and is the oldest active Mini-Estrellas title in Mexico" De-cap "Championship".-- 910:
Well there were a couple I had actually forgotten the page numbers, which is why it didn't looks the same, I fixed it.
2264:-- Since you already stated he was the champion before, its really repetitive to mention it again..instead how about 1690: 1631: 1446: 1925:
I agree that it's vague, sadly that's a reflection of how "strict" CMLL is with their divisions (weight as well).
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Are location and Event really needed in the table? The only two times they're different you could add a Note.
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Fixed and decision match is when there is just one match, not a tournament - I removed the term from the text.
258:"A "Mini" is not necessarily a person with dwarfism like North American midget professional wrestling"--: --> 615:"The current champion is Bam Bam, having defeated Pequeño Damián 666 for the title on July 27, 2008."--: --> 2190:
Well for non-wrestling fans it's not like it's a common term it's "so called" in the wrestling venacular.
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Dashes for page ranges. Use an en dash (–). Right now, you have an em dash in ref 1 and a hyphen in ref 6.
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Yes I got that, but I think that the two tables should follow each other, then the tournament brackets.
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Denotation of pages. For some, you use "p./pp.", while for others there are no abbreviations at all.
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Image caption: "Mascarita Sagrada, the first ever CMLL World Mini-Estrella champion" Remove "ever".
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I figured that the two title history sections are related and should thus follow each other IMO.
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There used to be a 5 foot max, but some minis go up to 5'6 so there is no actual limit any more.
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The current champion is Bam Bam, whod defeated Pequeño Damián 666 for the title on July 27, 2008.
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No, I mean that you have the "General refs" title but not the "Specific refs" title listed; see
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I hope you know that I'm talking about the section headers right? Not the lead. Take a look:
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Because Ultimo Dragoncito had more than one reign, you should denote which reign this was.
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In addition to being the first champion, Mascarita Sagrada is the only wrestler to....etc.
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There is a self-redirect to the article; don't know whether its intentional or not.
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I changed it to a level 2 header, not level 3 since there was only one tournament.
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FLC is currently short of reviewers; please consider reviewing one or more on the
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Done, although it's pretty clear which one it is from where the note is placed.
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It would also be nice if you could center the columns that contain only numbers.
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Remove the link to the AAA and mention it in its acronym form; already in lead
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The + explanation in the key has a full stop, the other "meaning"s don't...
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if you have not already (this message is being posted to all running FLCs).
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I read your comment wrong, it's name right the text is wrong and I will fix
645:"It is Bam Bam's first championship reign, he" Make the comma a semicolon. 2026:
Yeah, but some people might want to know more about the "match" itself.--
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I'd say it's a matter of linking a common term but alrighty it's linked.
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Standard pro-wrestling columns, if nothing else needed to consistency.
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for the 3rd or 5th reign? By your logic it should break the list up.
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Minis is a term that's use in Lucha Libre in general including CMLL.
1420:"first Mini-Estrellas champion" should that be "Estrella champion"? 39:
Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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I see, I just feel that "short wrestlers" is too broad. But okay.--
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DAB Tool is down but I'm 99.99% sure I don't have any DABs anyway.
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You use AAA as an abbreviation before you explain what it means.
1602:"General source on the title until 2000" - what does this mean? 1423:
The title is named "Mini-Estrellas" so it shouldn't be sigular.
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Can you center the em dashes in the cells? It looks neater. Use
288:"Being a professional wrestling championship " Comma after here. 1487:
Why is there a subsection 3.1 when there's no subsection 3.2?
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Multiple Mascarita Sagrada links aren't necessary in the lead.
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From that point forward the title has not been vacated again.
1786:-- Is there not a height limit for the broad term of "short"? 375:"The first champion was Mascarita Sagrada " Comma after here. 1710:
It links to the tournament section I figured it was alright.
346:"championship as it's focal point" No apostrophe in "it's". 776:"CMLL Held a tournament" "Held" should not be capitalized. 1582:
Well no it's not, it's covered by the general reference.
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NWA Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Championship#References
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I don't suppose there's a link for "decision match"?
1993:-- I just noticed this, but I think a pipelink to 585:"and the only champion to vacate the title"--: --> 525:"he is also the wrestler to hold the title"--: --> 3034:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. 1720:Is the term "Minis" officially endorsed by CMLL? 586:and the only champion to have vacated the title 43:. No further edits should be made to this page. 2519:===1992 CMLL World Mini-Estrella tournament=== 1961:-- Use the AAA acronym here in both instances. 1374:" in a a so-called " one too many "a"s there. 526:he is also the wrestler to have held the title 3040:No further edits should be made to this page. 404:"to form his own promotion" Comma after here. 41:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured list candidates 29:The following is an archived discussion of a 8: 2076:Since then, the title has not been vacated. 1717:Alt text and external links check out fine. 1397:"regular sized" should that be hyphenated? 2080:The title has not been vacated since then. 1661: 1165: 220: 100: 3010:per Dabomb, Giants, and Truco's reviews. 2114:-- Who calls it a "Phantom title switch"? 496:"over a year" Prefer "more than" a year. 223: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Featured list candidates 1640:Fixed or explained everything I think. 1441:Then is this list incorrectly titled? 103: 93: 901:Two inconsistencies in the print refs: 2810:The specific refs title is missing.-- 65:CMLL World Mini-Estrella Championship 7: 1579:That section is also unreferenced. 809:CMLL World Mini-Estrellas Champion" 2368:Instead of "left promotion" -: --> 1995:Professional wrestling match types 838:"Champion, the semi-finals"--: --> 187:Confirmed that there are no dabs. 24: 555:"amount of time, 110 days"--: --> 2143:Then what's the point of saying 2121:It's a general wrestling term. 1: 2525:==Reigns by combined length== 2268:Champion]" or " Championship" 1997:is needed on the word "match" 1400:I'm not sure, but it is now. 1319:Everything else seems fine.-- 1667:Resolved comments from Truco 3024:20:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC) 2999:03:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 2936:17:21, 17 August 2009 (UTC) 2914:17:08, 17 August 2009 (UTC) 2867:07:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC) 2845:03:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC) 2797:07:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC) 2765:03:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC) 2716:00:15, 22 August 2009 (UTC) 2693:19:53, 21 August 2009 (UTC) 2650:13:33, 18 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