249:, they are way shorter. I think you can reduce it by removing nominations as this is a filmography, not an award page and restrict the awards to the most notable ones, such as Filmfare and National Award. It says "with Kapoor as Naaz". Really? I mean is it that necessary to talk about Kareena's character in the film as if this is the article about the film. Remove some films from the lead and include notable ones. Mention his hits with some flops (notable ones), but not all. Also, there are some strong claims that need reliable sources, such as it says "Guru received extremely positive reviews". By providing two reviews of certain critics do not prove that it received "extremely" positive reviews. Plus, remove some critics' reviews and box-office performance.--
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Jim Carter sorted some and I've sorted some of the other points above. Could you please point out what's wrong with ref 12? Also with India Today as I thought IndiaToday.in was it's online arm. Could you point out some good quality pics ones of him from recent times on
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Do a thorough check of the refs to make sure that they are RS. Ones that jump out at me are: dnnworld, glamsham, naachgaana, tellychakkar, bollyspice. Basically if there isn't a independent article on wiki about it, it's probably not a RS. Also that the refs back up the info in the table e.g. year of
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In the lead you only need to mention certain films not the majority of them. I don't know this actor well but from a quick look at his filmography, I would mention
Refugee, a few of the films that you said were poorly received in 2001-03, Kuch Naa Kaho, LOC Kargil, Run, Yuva, Dhoom, Phir Milenge,
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I am nominating this for featured list because the filmography gives a good summary of
Abhishek Bachchan's extensive career in the Hindi film industry. I expect constructive comments from the reviewers. This is my 1st FLC so please don't be too harsh to me. All helpful comments on improvement are
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From what I can see, the prose needs quite a bit of work. There is a significant lack of flow between your sentences; they seem like a listing of one film after another with little additional value. I don't want to discourage you, but a peer-review would probably be beneficial before an FLC nom.
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I personally don't like to mention successes of films in terms of box-office in filmographies unless they are record breakers but if you want to use "commercial success", you have to have refs backing it up like Box Office India refs. Don't use terms like "hit", you can use commercial success. -
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Previous FLs have kept everything in one table such as SRK, Hrithik, Aamir and clarified the cameo/specials in the notes but I don't think it would be less of an FL if it was split out into a separate table. Again up to you as nominator, if you'd like to action this recommendation.
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I've decided to go at this nomination from a different angle. I'm recused from supporting it because of the work I've done now but have ensured that the table and lead look good so that hopefully this FLC is more palatable for others. Hope it helps
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Bunty aur Babli, Sarkar, Dus, Bluffmaster!, Kabhi Alvida Naa Kehna, Umrao Jaan, Dhoom 2, Guru, Sarkar Raj, Drona, Dostana, Delhi-6, Paa, Raavan, Khelein Hum Jee Jaan Sey, Bol
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I have fixed the issues you noted. Please take a look. The only thing I was unable to fix is I can't wikilink all entries in the director column as many of the directors don't have their articles and as the
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Instead of "2006", I would suggest to replace it with "to that point" as the film was not just the highest-grosser of the year but of all time (at the time of its release). And yes replace the source too that should support the claim.
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Corrected the above points. India Today Group now known as Living Media. Website seems to be in lower case. I think the picture can stay, it's relatively up to date for his appearance which is the main goal for the lead pic.
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I am not considering this an issue. It was just a personal preference. One more thing! It will be good if a reviewer reviews the image on
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Comparing this to featured filmographies, I think it would look better if overlinking is avoided. It closely follows similar lists of other actors. Anyways I am not insisting on it. Except this one, it looks fine.
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I'm not sure why this changes are needed. Wikilink in citations are not considered overlinking and I don't see any reason why the list should be split. So, I ask Frb.TG and Ssven to reconsider.
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I'm not taking over just ensuring it's in good standing as I've put some effort into it, I'm certainly not taking it to its conclusion as I'm shortly going to be leaving
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refers to the magazine, so it should be formatted using the cite news template. The publisher for the magazine, the various sister news channels, and the website are of course owned the
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Remove the critic review for Refugee as sole critic reviews are POV. However you can mention that he was nominated for the Filmfare Award for Best Debut for this role (with a ref). - (
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We can't use words like "moderate breakthrough" without a source backing it up. Also the poorly received bit needs sources with examples of poorly received films during that period. (
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I think this has come up before. Overlinking doesn't apply to references and it can indeed be useful to have them all linked as we don't which reference is going to be clicked first.
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Remove the credited as column, nearly all his roles have been acting roles so no need for this column. Any films he produced, you can add producer in the notes section - (
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I've made a further round of copy/edits, and it looks good to me now. --
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