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749:, which doesn't list Nine Inch Nails releases. Granted neither of these are Fls, but the concept still applies. So that said, the Strapping Lad stuff should be moved elsewhere. The list would still be fairly large and content-packed, so I think this would only help to focus the list. A link and a mention to a Strapping Lad discog would surely be helpful, but the actual list doesn't belong here. 715: 800:
is "It comprehensively covers the defined scope, providing at least all of the major items and, where practical, a complete set of items; where appropriate, it has annotations that provide useful and appropriate information about the items." I interpret "complete set of items" to be "complete list of
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Secondly, the disclaimer "As archival policy varies, chart information may be incomplete." worries me. FLC requires a list to be complete, so this seems like a misstep right off the bat. One solution may be to specify which lists in particular have odd archival policies (via a footnote or something
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A decent list, but I have some content-issues I'd like to see addressed before I can support. First, when making discographies for individuals who have tended to work within other musical groups, it's usually best to stick just to solo projects, and leave separate band discographies to seperate
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His solo albums had arbitrary backup musicians, mainly a varying subset of Strapping Young Lad members, until he founded a band just for his solo music. "Dedicated" meaning permanent, designed for a specific purpose, and committed to a single goal rather than being arbitrarily and tentatively
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Notes like, 'Released as The Devin Townsend Band. Special edition release includes the Safe Zone bonus DVD.' Are not complete sentences and do not need sentences, and should instead be formatted as 'Released as The Devin Townsend Band; special edition release includes the Safe Zone bonus
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like that) and exactly what those peculiarities are, rather than a blanket disclaimer that puts all the charts into question. I'm not sure if this would fix the inherent problem of the list being incomplete, but some more transparency would be a step in the right direction.
718:. A Strapping Young Lad discography would have no more than 17 entries with no possibility of expansion. I'm willing to split the article if people here are really for it, I just want to make sure it's not going to be merged again in six months. β€” 468:'His solo albums had a varying lineup of backup musicians except for Accelerated Evolution (2003) and Synchestra (2006), which were recorded and represented live with a permanent lineup, The Devin Townsend Band.' -- Comma before 'except' 96: 91: 793:. They aren't made to the public in any way except through the BBC web site which does not keep archives, and the company refuses to release historical charts, so the information simply doesn't exist as far as I can tell. 764:
it just feels thin. The FLC criteria say to use stand-alone lists if they "could not reasonably be included as part of a related article"; do you really think Strapping can't be reasonably included in this list?
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in terms of charting information, as there's so many obscure charts like the UK genre charts that aren't included in any discography. The article is complete and up-to-date with all the charts on
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So, given that change, the list would require a bit of a reorganization, namely splitting the list into sections rather than subsections within each group.
544:'Townsend is working on a four-album series called the Devin Townsend Project in which each album is written in a different style.' -- Comma after 'Project' 40: 541:'He has since produced several for other groups, and continues to write and release self-produced albums from his home studio.' -- 'several_____' what? 756:
Strapping was essentially a Townsend solo project, he wrote and produced everything. Plus the band only has ten releases and no singles. Compared to
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I added a source for the 2003 video. No source exists for the 1997 entry other than the director's blog, so I removed it. β€”
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I have a few more qualms and quibbles, but I'll hold off on the minor stuff until if and when the above is addressed.
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I feel the lead lacks in terms of summarizing his discography, like I see nothing about how his albums charted, etc.
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Image captions and notes that aren't complete sentences should not have periods (full stops) at their ends.
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albums/singles/videos", and the charting information to fall under "annotations". No discography is
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In 2007, Townsend disbanded both Strapping Young Lad and The Devin Townsend Band to spend more time
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This is the record label's web site, I don't think you can do much better for a release date. β€”
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has 24 entries (and is very likely to expand in the future as he's an active performer) and
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Reference titles should not be in all caps, even if they were like that in the original.
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There is an inconsistency with the linking of publishers, like for blabbermouth.net.--
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is a good example of this, which clearly avoids listing No Doubt releases. As is
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Refs 1, 2 and 5 are missing publishers and last access dates in their citations.
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and certainly has enough editorial control to publish a reliable interview. β€”
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Refs 3 and 7 are both to the same site, yet they're formatted differently.
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I've fixed these problems and rewrote the lead. What do you think? β€”
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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http://www.insideout.de/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=645
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Is there any reason why there are no chartings for the albums?
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I agree, I will clarify it. The notice really applies to the
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Striking, I see it's an interview so it should be fine.
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List of awards and nominations received by Sam Roberts
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in which each album is written in a different style
589:Production credits and involvement on other albums 191:). I'll use a different word since it's unclear. β€” 844:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. 43:. No further edits should be made to this page. 475:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/one-off 850:No further edits should be made to this page. 809:, which are the only charts included on e.g. 41:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured list candidates 29:The following is an archived discussion of a 8: 661:The list itself is in good shape and meets 491:Okay, what about the rest of my comments?-- 796:As for the "inherent problem", the actual 427: 272:What makes the following sources reliable? 145: 101: 568:What verifies the 1997 and 2003 entries? 148: 132:I am nominating this for featured list. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Featured list candidates 104: 89: 7: 716:it's about to be delisted and merged 594:Why aren't the credits capitalized? 24: 813:, so that should be sufficient. β€” 218:"a number of albums for "--: --> 410:I've addressed these issues. β€” 1: 433:Resolved comments from Truco 308:, especially the comment by 758:Nine Inch Nails discography 867: 288:The New York Times Company 211:produced dozens of albums" 65:Devin Townsend discography 728:14:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC) 698:03:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC) 847:Please do not modify it. 838:05:09, 7 June 2009 (UTC) 823:16:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC) 775:16:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC) 747:Trent Reznor discography 743:Gwen Stefani discography 644:16:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC) 630:16:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC) 581:12:34, 8 June 2009 (UTC) 531:16:40, 7 June 2009 (UTC) 517:03:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC) 487:17:28, 6 June 2009 (UTC) 420:02:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC) 402:21:35, 1 June 2009 (UTC) 373:02:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC) 346:14:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC) 332:14:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC) 300:02:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC) 246:21:35, 1 June 2009 (UTC) 226:working on a four-album" 201:02:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC) 142:21:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC) 83:21:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC) 36:Please do not modify it. 31:featured list nomination 811:Metallica discography 386:should be italicized. 382:Publications such as 762:No Doubt discography 56:20:47, 16 June 2009 521:I'll get to that. β€” 219:several albums for 695: 687: 655: 654: 626: 513: 253: 252: 187:assembled (as in 150:Resolved issues, 130: 129: 86: 858: 849: 710:For comparison, 691: 686: 684: 681: 676: 673: 668: 625: 623: 620: 615: 612: 607: 512: 510: 507: 502: 499: 494: 434: 428: 189:dedicated server 149: 146: 102: 71: 38: 866: 865: 861: 860: 859: 857: 856: 855: 854: 845: 696: 682: 679: 674: 671: 669: 656: 621: 618: 613: 610: 608: 508: 505: 500: 497: 495: 435: 432: 306:this discussion 68: 34: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 864: 862: 853: 852: 826: 825: 794: 787:UK Indie Chart 778: 777: 735: 734: 733: 732: 731: 730: 703: 702: 701: 700: 690: 653: 652: 651: 650: 649: 648: 647: 646: 601: 600: 596: 595: 591: 590: 586: 585: 584: 583: 565: 564: 560: 559: 554: 553: 549: 548: 545: 542: 539: 538: 537: 536: 535: 534: 533: 469: 465: 464: 437: 436: 431: 426: 425: 424: 423: 422: 405: 404: 388: 379: 378: 377: 376: 375: 354: 353: 352: 351: 350: 349: 348: 269: 264: 251: 250: 249: 248: 234: 231: 227: 220: 216: 212: 207:"Townsend has 205: 204: 203: 160: 159: 128: 127: 126: 125: 123:External links 120: 115: 107: 106: 100: 99: 94: 88: 87: 73:Nominator(s): 67: 62: 61: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 863: 851: 848: 842: 841: 840: 839: 835: 831: 824: 820: 816: 812: 808: 807:WP:GOODCHARTS 804: 799: 795: 792: 791:UK Rock Chart 788: 784: 783: 782: 776: 772: 768: 763: 759: 755: 754: 753: 750: 748: 744: 739: 729: 725: 721: 717: 713: 709: 708: 707: 706: 705: 704: 699: 694: 689: 688: 685: 677: 664: 660: 659: 658: 657: 645: 641: 637: 633: 632: 631: 628: 627: 624: 616: 603: 602: 598: 597: 593: 592: 588: 587: 582: 578: 574: 570: 569: 567: 566: 562: 561: 556: 555: 552:Studio albums 551: 550: 546: 543: 540: 532: 528: 524: 520: 519: 518: 515: 514: 511: 503: 490: 489: 488: 484: 480: 476: 473: 472: 470: 467: 466: 462: 461: 460: 459: 458: 457: 455: 452: 449: 445: 439: 438: 430: 429: 421: 417: 413: 409: 408: 407: 406: 403: 399: 395: 392: 389: 387: 385: 380: 374: 370: 366: 362: 361: 360: 359: 355: 347: 343: 339: 335: 334: 333: 329: 325: 321: 318: 315: 311: 307: 303: 302: 301: 297: 293: 289: 285: 282: 281: 280: 279: 275: 274: 273: 270: 268: 265: 263: 260: 259: 258: 257: 247: 243: 239: 235: 232: 228: 225: 222:"Townsend is 221: 217: 213: 210: 206: 202: 198: 194: 190: 185: 184: 182: 181: 179: 176: 173: 169: 165: 162: 161: 157: 153: 147: 144: 143: 139: 135: 124: 121: 119: 116: 114: 111: 110: 109: 108: 103: 98: 95: 93: 90: 85: 84: 80: 76: 70: 69: 66: 63: 60: 58: 55: 51: 48:The list was 44: 42: 37: 32: 27: 26: 19: 846: 843: 827: 802: 798:FL criterion 779: 751: 741:lists. 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Devin Townsend discography
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