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378: 367: 1539:, I read through the comments above and have made some edits to the list. I have centre aligned the main table as BeatlesLedTV suggested above. Also I think the Nelson Mandela quote should be in the parent article only, which really needs some work! With that said this is a great list and look forward to reviewing the rest of the series. Please find my comments below: 1373:"Sport has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does. It speaks to youth in a language they understand. Sport can create hope, where once there was only despair." Nelson Mandela, Patron of Laureus at inaugural awards ceremony 2000 254:
Permission granted! I would hold off on anything too radical, I can foresee that all of the Laureus lists will (should) share a common opening para or so, with variations on a theme thereafter, and table formats, ref formats etc should also follow suit, hence why I think it'd be best to see this one
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and thought, for such a prominent award (comparable to an Oscar) it deserved better, so I spent a few hours tweaking and referencing, and here we are. I would be looking to possibly roll this format out over some of the other Laureus Award lists, so let's really get this one right before we move on.
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Winners and nominations - I know it must be intentional but don't understand why totals read as if winners were not also nominees. Per the Oscar analogy "and the nominees are w, x, y, z, ... and the winner is y". So with eg "American sportswomen have won more awards and nominations than any other
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The only formatting issue I see is that the two book references (numbers 3 and 22) should have 13-digit ISBN numbers, not the 10-digit variety. Do an online search for an ISBN converter and you should be able to find a site that will do the job (the Library of Congress has one that works for
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I think as long as it is put in context as a quote, and the relevance of the quote explained, this would be worth including somewhere; I'm not sure whether it should be in each of these lists though, or whether it would be better just placed in the parent article,
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I've looked again, and realised that my choice of layout was for consistency against the previous columns, i.e "Name, flag/nationality, sport", so unless there's a strong reason why the current format blows, I'm inclined to stick with it...
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Well, it was her gold medals that won her the award really, but yes, it's the "since" bit that's been vaguely controversial thanks to CNN getting it wrong. It's okay as it stands, I don't want to read too much into it.
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I'm not overly keen on that, because it's a lot (a LOT) of coding for little aesthetic benefit, especially when those cols are so narrow the alignment is almost irrelevant because the content fills the cells.
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thanks for your comments and tweaks. I'm sure I won't catch them all in the subsequent nominations so apologies if you repeat yourself should you decide to review those as and when they get posted! Cheers,
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Thank you, it's a pleasure. I'm always on the lookout for more such award lists, and if they happen to be about women, then win-win for the project as a whole. Let me know if you have anything in mind.
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No, it's possible, probably not after the tables, more likely at the end of the lead, but I'd like to see what others have to say about that before implementing it across all these various articles,
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Maybe this is a Engvar thing because to me if I see a list of "winners" which this is, and then some "nominees", I assume the "nominees" aren't winners, particularly when there's "winner" column...
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or would it be against some MoS layout guide to include it at bottom of (each) article after last tables? Maybe I'm just soppy but Laureus themselves say it is the "driving force" for the movement.
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Thanks Ian, this review has been an awesome reminder of how good and collaborative the community can be, seven commentators and as a result, and if I say so myself, a top-notch resultant list.
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As such, all comments and suggestions on how to improve the list are very much appreciated, and will be attended to as soon as practicable. Cheers in advance for your time and interest.
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Couldn't agree more TRM. This is exactly what we are trying to do here, build an encyclopedia for our readers. I just wish a few more people around here would remember that. Cheers –
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If that is right (and I'm not batty) then for the main table column - (I'm certainly not suggesting to add the winners back in), re-label it from "Nominees" to "Other nominees"?
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into any of the others. Unless you're certain I've got some/all of the aspects okay (in which case you could support this nom, if not, you could review this nom!).
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Actually, although this wasn't the format I'd been working on, I prefer it to my approach. I'm going to start doing some work on the disability list is that's okay?
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Key - "Indicates total(s) excluding those of individuals whose award(s) and/or nomination(s) were later rescinded" - "Indicates totals which exclude rescissions."?
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ok, ref updated, I'll work on the links in slower time if that's okay because I reuse many of them across several articles. Thanks for your interest and support!
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It might do, but as far as I can tell, that would mean adding "style="text-align:center;" to every single cell, unless you know of another way of doing it?
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I suspect they should. Then should I link every sport every time (sortable table, after all...) I think I answered my own question... Working...
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well let's work this lot up together. Anything you'd do differently here? Feel free to suggest changes and then we'll co-nom the rest of them?
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prose looks pristine and the list looks to meet guidelines. Don't see any reason why this should not be a featured list. Only two queries:
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thanks, as ever, for your useful comments. I've responded to them all above I think, please let me know what you think. All the best,
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Engvar - "honoring"? The Laureus website uses: organisation, honour, colour, favouritism etc and their registered office is in London.
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has won the most awards with three, in 2003, 2010, and 2016." change to "has won the most awards with three: in 2003, 2010, and 2016."
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No, that's fine; it was just a template that I'd seen look smart before, but you're right that the format matches better like this.
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The table looks good and sorts fine. I have a couple of queries; they aren't necessarily improvements, just possible alternatives.
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And the header for the main table would change from "List of winners and nominees" to 'List of winners and other nominees'
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Should the sports of the nominations be linked where they don't appear otherwise (such as Nordic skiing in this list).
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I'm not sure, it's list of winners by the sport they play, otherwise it would be alphabetical in terms of sport...
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Consider archiving the sources that haven't already been archived so that you need not worry about link rot.
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Fantastic job. The list was in a terrible list when you found it and I'm glad to see this getting the
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nationality, with seven wins and twenty-one nominations.", isn't it 'more correct' to say "seven wins
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Some of these questions and suggestions might also be relevant to each of the other Laureus articles.
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Me too, glad it's not just my browser/OS combo. Not sure how to fix that, any ideas? I'm sure the
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no worries, have adjusted all the similar articles I've been working on accordingly. Cheers.
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Typo in the key: "nomination was later rescindeded" (this is also in the Statistics key).
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That's it. Please ignore anything that is not helpful. Thanks for the work on this set.
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There are 34 categories, including female tennis player of the year.... so I guess yes.
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Featured list candidates/Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year/archive1
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behind the World Sports Awards, I don't know where they derived the name from...
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annual awards ceremony' to reduce ambiguity (ie 'the' ceremony is in one place)
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This is looking really good. I have a couple copyedit suggestions for the lead:
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No, it's okay, "style="text-align: center" in the class line worked out.
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Main table - have checked all names links, nationality, flag and sport
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nominations." (ie equals seven wins out of twenty-eight nominations)?
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My apologies. Was looking in the wrong place. I meant citation five.
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thanks, I've converted those isbns. Everything else seems in order.
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Ref 5 – change "International Athletic Associations Federation" to
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Nominations in the second-to-last sentence is spelled incorrectly.
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say Serena has won 4? Had she won one in another award category?
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Fixed, have been dwelling on that a while, thanks for the nudge.
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Winners' sports are capitalised but not nominees', intentional.
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I am nominating this for featured list because I found it like
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all done/responded to. Let me know how you feel about it.
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They aren't reallocated, per the Laureus official ebsite.
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Retitle ref column "Refs" as each year has two refs each.
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With that change, this source review has been passed.
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Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce has been nominated four times
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since Szabo 1984 and first to win 5 medals since 2008
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