504:, while this title might "satisfy" the Consistency criterion, this article does not satisfy three of the other criteria, namely Naturalness: "As part of this, a good title should convey what the subject is actually called in English" (tropical storms are not called hurricanes in English), Recognizability: "article titles are expected to be a recognizable name or description of the topic" (this title does not describe the topic, only part of it), and Precision: "titles are expected to use names and terms that are precise... as precise as is necessary to identify the topic of the article unambiguously". Sacrificing three criteria to satisfy one is improper. IMO the other hurricane lists,
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1337:"that surround Tucson. However, there was no flooding reported in the Tucson area, and Tucson International Airport reported only 1.1 in (28 mm) as a result of the storm" - why does Tucson need to be mentioned three times? I know it's one of the coolest cities in the world, but come on, give Yuma some love!
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Don't agree with this one. The colors are based on the intensity scale to the right of the table, and each colored cell in the table already spells out the relevant intensity classification. Adding a symbol to say that the cell's background color says that the storm is a
Category 4 hurricane when the
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but I want to comment with regard to the name of the article. Since there is precedent for the term "hurricane" in such articles, including a number of featured lists, I would argue it is reasonable to assume that this has been raised at previous FLCs. If those lists were not affected by their names,
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You use the verb "carry" in two consecutive sentence. While one wouldn't have annoyed me, it is a bit too vernacular for me to be happy you using it twice so soon after another in the same context. Is the "most storms that could affect
Arizona are carried away from the United States" even necessary?
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I make no claim to be an expert on anything, but in my humble opinion, there's no information in the table conveyed by colour that is not available in the text of the table. I'd say the table meets our standards for accessibility, although it would benefit from a caption. Unfortunately, I can't say
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1) I'm okay with the format now 2) ref retrieve dates are half m-d-year and half year-m-d, they should all be consistent 3) I have to go with KV5 on the name, cyclones are not hurricanes, hurricanes are in the
Atlantic, typhoons are hurricanes in the Pacific, both have gobs of water, Arizona is not
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Retrieve dates ok now. Like I said before, I have always seen hurricane used to mean a storm over a certain wind speed in the
Atlantic (which means kaboodles of rain). It makes my skin crawl to see hurricane used to mean a storm on the west coast, even more so one in the desert. So I can't support
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That's correct. However, actionable or not, it stands procedurally because I still believe this list is misnamed but no progress will be made due to the impasse in discussion. I'm not willing to believe that this name is proper, but I can see that I will always hold the minority view. Thus, I have
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I also disagree with the point that this is not a list. There is more prose than usual since the list-prose format does not lend itself very well to pre-1960 storms, due to lack of data, and to post-2000 storms, due to too much data. That said, I have no issues sending the page to FAC under the
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Speaking as someone with a decade of research on tropical meteorology and something like 40 FAs and FLs on hurricanes, I can say with reasonable confidence that "hurricane" has two usages; a common usage and a technical usage. From a technical standpoint, a hurricane is a tropical cyclone with
2442:– Not a fan of the title for the reason already mentioned, but I'm ignoring it as I don't particularly want to start a debate on this topic. Kind of disappointed in how much I found, since there have been so many reviews before this one, but none of the things below should be too hard to fix.
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This one will take me a little bit longer to do. The original source is not online anymore. I went and looked for the article in microfilm, and while I found the newspaper for that time period, I could not find the article in time before the library closed. I'll try again to find it tomorrow.
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as it displays windspeed information on mouseover that is denied to anyone who only uses a keyboard (since the table elements it produces can't receive focus). I'd prefer to see something like the table on the right but that's really an issue for your WikiProject (or whoever maintains
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October 1972: "The
Nogales Highway Bridge over the Santa Cruz River was washed away by the flooding, and saturated the soils...". The bridge saturated the soils, or the flooding? Sounds like the bridge from this. Not sure if that's the intention, so worth asking about.
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The only other thing I would suggest is that the second table has a colspanned heading: "Wettest tropical cyclones, and their remnants, in
Arizona - Highest known recorded totals", which ideally ought to be the table caption, rather than a header row. Readers using
1576:, no further issues. Name doesn't bother me, and my only other concern has been adequately addressed. I think this is enough of a list to qualify now. That said, wouldn't it have been better if all the wikiproject supporters declared their conflict of interest?
1183:"Albeit the storm remained at sea, its residual moisture was advected over southern Arizona, a passing cold front triggered widespread showers and thunderstorms on the evening of September 9" - it's a runon or needs a semicolon or something or another brother
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October 1968: Same goes for "The last storm to impact
Arizona during the decade was Hurricane Pauline, which added high amounts of moisture ahead of a cold front in early October 1968." Easiest fix is probably to remove the year, leaving "in early October".
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Yeah, my oppose had nothing to do with whether storms in
Arizona can be called hurricanes; there is no doubt that this is correct. My oppose was based on the fact that the list includes multiple types of tropical cyclones: hurricanes and tropical storms. —
1008:"Not all Arizona hurricanes originate from the Pacific Ocean, however; an Atlantic hurricane in 2008 produced rainfall in eastern Arizona, and another Atlantic storm reached Arizona as a tropical depression" - you say "Arizona" three times in one sentence
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Because there are non-hurricanes in the list. It's simple. All of the lists you reference were promoted in 2008 or earlier, and as such are lacking in comparison to the current criteria. The most accurate and descriptive name should be used, regardless of
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sustained winds that satisfy a given wind criterion. However, it is used far more commonly to encompass all tropical cyclones in the climatological context (ie. a season or other time frame, or a list of storms to affect a state). We have the
1721:"Arizona hurricanes are also responsible for torrential rainfall in localized areas, with the state's 24-hour rainfall record—11.97 inches (304 mm) of precipitation—being held by rainfall resulting ..." rainfall is used three times here...
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You opposed on two counts: the first one (the list format) has been addressed, and the second one (the page name) is evolving into a consensus against your position. I am not sure how your continued opposition is actionable at this point.
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is a fallacious argument, because the common name for a tropical storm is not "hurricane", and "use the most common name" does not mean "use the most common name found as the title of a
Knowledge article". As to your link to
3033:- I have no major issues with the list, ive read through it over the last few weeks and everything seems to be upto scratch. As for the width, i can now see what Titoxd meant having just checked it out on a small screen.
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But that forces the last column to span four rows in a 1024x768 screen, at least for #10 in the list. Even 45% causes that problem in my monitor, and the smallest width that does not cause me that issue is 50%.
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The size of the font is already 92% of normal. Reducing the table size is not possible without removing information from the table, and I don't know what could be removed while retaining the table's usefulness.
1557:- See my above comment for why I believe the above objections are based on inaccurate assumptions. The article is the result of extensive and thorough research, and I believe it's well deserving of the status.
991:"Usually, these storms originate in the eastern Pacific Ocean, and make landfall in the Mexican states of Baja California or Sonora, dissipating before crossing into the United States" - this is rather wordy
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This is perfectly fine where it is. There have been numerous discussion across
Knowledge and these sorts of articles, and the consensus was in favor "List of hurricanes". I'll review this later tonight. --♫
1286:"Raymond passed over the state as a tropical depression, and produced heavy rainfall on the southeastern portion of the state, with 4.72 in (120 mm) of rain falling in Nogales" - you mention "state" twice
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on the article/list issue. I was leaning towards considering this an article as well. However, there is precedent on having small clusters of text be considered a list, namely at one of KV's FLs,
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1050:-based. Tropical cyclones occur mostly in the fall, just after the end of the monsoon season, so I can't replace summer/fall with "monsoon season" per se, and just saying "autumn" is inaccurate.
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Storms: "and they infuse the monsoon over the southwestern United States." What is this supposed to mean? Is "the monsoon" intended to be "the monsoons" or something? If not, I don't get it.
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Actually, this reference used to be accessed via archive.org, but a new link to the same page was found, so that replaced the old archive link. I just removed mention of the Wayback Machine.
483:, a policy. Additionally, while the name you propose is indeed more precise, it is also not natural (since "tropical cyclone" is not used in the United States nearly as much as "hurricane").
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I'm not convinced this is a list. There is an awful lot of prose, and it's not structured like other "prose-lists", where each entry has its own prose section. It may very well be an article.
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there is no reason this nomination should fail simply because one or two reviewers don't like the article's name. That being said, it is less of a list than an article as it stands.
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I think you're trying to make an issue out of something rather minor. "Hurricane" is indeed the most common name for a generic tropical cyclone in the United States. Once again, see
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Not wishing to tip the apple cart but you really don't need to say "An Arizona hurricane is..." just to get some kind of bold in the lead. I'd say something more interesting.
864:(all of the Featured Articles) occurred in the Northeast Pacific and are properly referred to as "hurricanes". Whether Arizona is a desert or not has no bearing on whether
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Ugh, this thing. The problem is a resolution issue in wide-screen monitors, but EasyTimelines do not lend themselves to being floated, and instead just act as if they had
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is not accurate as fails to describe the topic, because some of the storms were remnant lows or TD's when they made it there. (i.e. Octave, Kathleen). Should this become
1899:" Los Robles Wash carried up to 32,600 cu ft/s (920 m3/s), while the Santa Cruz River proper peaked at 9,200 cubic feet per second" consistent cubic feet p/s please.
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That looks fine, the new Saffir-Simpson table is a big improvement and you've made captions for the main tables. I don't see any outstanding accessibility issues. --
1269:"The storm system produced sustained winds of 20 to 30 miles per hour (30 to 50 km/h) were recorded in the Tucson area. " - I grammered myself when I was read that.
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Those lists consist mostly of list items and have non-hurricanes. This "list" is 80% prose and hence an article, not a list. It should be renamed and moved to FAC.
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I can see here that I'm just going to be talked down by members of the Hurricane WikiProject, so I am tabling my part in this discussion but my oppose stands. —
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Not convinced on the name either; there are tropical storms as well as hurricanes, so this should probably be re-named to "List of Arizona tropical storms".
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Note that my oppose is not based on this being a list. It is. My oppose is based on the use of "hurricane" in the name as opposed to "tropical cyclone". —
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August 1921: "The first known tropical disturbance to affect the state occurred in August 1921". Notice the repetition between the lead-in and the prose?
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Don't work as in they're broken? They work for me... otherwise I'm not sure what you mean by that. I added a location to the titles to disambiguate them.
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I disagree that it's "perfectly fine" as the name does not illustrate the contents of the list. The tropical cyclones list name would be more accurate. —
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CALLING YOU on that one. It is NOT nearly identical to the NJ, NY, and CA lists. Those have more list content than prose where's the AZ is the opposite.
275:— all featured.) The intensity-neutral name for all of those lists would have to be "List of {state} tropical cyclones", which fails the criteria set in
808:, and this includes the Northeastern Pacific, which is where Arizona gets its tropical cyclones. Typhoons only occur on the Northwest Pacific Ocean;
1115:"This same system produced more than twice the average annual rainfall in Imperial Valley, California" - isn't this supposed to be about Arizona?
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Yes, but the rainfall total in an area that is contiguous to Arizona seemed impressive enough to leave it in. I can take it out if you'd prefer.
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1970s: Get a spaced en dash in "United States-Mexico border" in the photo caption; this is how our article on the topic handles the formatting.
1098:"The rainfall due to the storm still holds the monthly rainfall record at the National Weather Service office in Tucson" - what was the total?!
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560:. Now can we get on to the analysis of this article without worrying about whether it should be a list or what its title should be? --♫
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what do you think of when you here the word "hurricane"? BTW, Strange PAsserby, AFAIK, this issues has been brought up once in 2007 on
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all issues on Hink comment's have been addressed AFAIK, so I support. I alos think it's title should remain the same per
1448:, and just because it happened before doesn't mean it has to stay the same. Thanks for your thoughts on the topic :-). —
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even on an oceanic coast-and it's in the desert. Sorry but I simply can't refer to a storm in AZ as a hurricane.
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I would like to see the Wettest tropical cyclones, and their remnants, in Arizona table reduced down in size.
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Archived stuff (e.g. ref 1) normally should normally have an archive date and an original url. Like ref 62.
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There are only so many ways of saying "rain"... I changed the sentence around to avoid the issue.
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First, the format. Looks now like mainly a table and a timeline, so we
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or similar would appreciate these sort of minor changes. Cheers, --
2639:"with many others received some damage". "received" → "receiving".
2121:"forced the university to delay one of its football games" is that
1704:"every five years or so" perhaps "approximately every five years"?
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Actually, I changed it to be all inches (mm), instead of in (mm).
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540:, all because "hurricane" is the more general name. We also have
1967:"The 1980s saw destructive tropical cyclone pass" grammar fail.
2035:"August 1995: 1995's Flossie's" again, odd to see year: year.
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Actually it can be done rather easily by reducing 50% to 30%.
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2104:"0.90 inches" - "in" normally. Check the whole article...
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Four dab links: Santa Cruz River, Red Rock, nickel, gusts.
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1984:"The flooding caused record floods" poor grammar.
1378:Not sure how to fix boring. Maybe making the text
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1953:I'm surprised nobody caught that before. Fixed.
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1081:Some of the storms in "Storms" are unsourced.
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1135:It sounded better when I wrote it. Changed.
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1882:"more than 5.00 (127 mm) of " 5.00 what?
532:, note how the review for each season is
283:current name if that's what FLC prefers.
2777:Tropical Storm: 39–73 mph (63–117 km/h)
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2052:"1998: In 1998, " no need for In 1998..
1831:" but this time, the " no comma needed.
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2809:Category 4: 131–155 mph (210–249 km/h)
2801:Category 3: 111–130 mph (178–209 km/h)
1374:The Olivia 00 bit is boring and lengthy
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41:Knowledge talk:Featured list candidates
2925:List of Major League Baseball managers
2793:Category 2: 96–110 mph (154–177 km/h)
2176:"due to a lighting strike" lightning.
2069:"decade did not see any storm " -: -->
2785:Category 1: 74–95 mph (119–153 km/h)
1635:Yay, stuff I can actually deal with!
7:
2890:and modified the table accordingly.
694:better things to use my time for. —
902:Comment to whoever is opposing this
608:). Your argument that it should be
2693:Fixed all. Thanks for the review!
1625:now in list territory. This is a
1345:Damage total from Lester or Nora?
769:Changed it to be more list-based.
24:
18:Knowledge:Featured list candidates
2448:I tried to clarify the sentence.
2107:Changed all of them to "inches".
1814:No reason to link flood or rain.
261:List of North Carolina hurricanes
1303:I'd mention the year for Hilary
2306:the first. I'd be consistent.
1797:, i.e. use row and col scopes.
1188:
3043:11:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
2760:Saffir–Simpson Hurricane Scale
2128:Not really. Should I nuke it?
1987:Redundant redundancy removed.
1776:, so I'd explain it that way.
1774:Saffir–Simpson Hurricane Scale
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1272:Sentence fragments are yummy.
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610:List of Arizona tropical storm
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2999:09:53, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
2985:15:33, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
2967:15:30, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
2945:15:28, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
1779:Added a legend by the table.
1235:"8 miles wide" - conversion?
1194:
906:List of California hurricanes
626:2009 Pacific hurricane season
542:"Louisiana hurricane history"
429:List of California hurricanes
425:List of New Jersey hurricanes
269:List of New Jersey hurricanes
265:List of California hurricanes
2251:Added the publication date.
2004:I see what you mean. Fixed.
908:. 13:16, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
630:2009 tropical cyclone season
614:List of Arizona remmant lows
297:Tropical cyclones in Arizona
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2898:22:13, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
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1793:Tables need to comply with
1787:23:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
1766:23:13, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
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1741:Modified slightly. Better?
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1609:12:34, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
1590:03:44, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
951:21:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
433:List of New York hurricanes
273:List of New York hurricanes
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897:11:11, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
876:02:08, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
822:Hurricane Guillermo (1997)
800:01:39, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
777:22:36, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
765:19:41, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
710:01:25, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
689:01:20, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
676:01:13, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
656:14:28, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
572:12:47, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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491:23:56, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
472:22:02, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
447:21:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
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398:02:11, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
370:11:17, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
350:22:36, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
334:22:21, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
315:21:05, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
291:01:56, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
257:List of Florida hurricanes
251:01:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
231:19:58, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
179:03:37, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
164:03:37, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
72:List of Arizona hurricanes
65:List of Arizona hurricanes
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866:it can be affected by one
552:. Furthermore, there are
530:National Hurricane Center
56:16:10, 17 September 2011
3062:Please do not modify it.
2331:United States hurricanes
1489:common naming convention
36:Please do not modify it.
31:featured list nomination
2417:Resolved comments from
1599:Resolved comments from
854:Hurricane Daniel (2006)
618:could always be changed
558:United States hurricane
814:Hurricane Linda (1997)
538:Hurricanes in Michigan
199:relating to opposition
862:Hurricane Lane (2006)
858:Hurricane Isis (1998)
850:Hurricane Nora (1997)
846:Hurricane Kiko (1989)
838:Hurricane John (2006)
834:Hurricane John (1994)
818:Hurricane Rick (2009)
2875:Saffir-Simpson small
2853:JAWS (screen reader)
2842:Saffir-Simpson small
2831:Saffir-Simpson small
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2500:Good catch. Fixed.
2267:Staff Writer -: -->
1477:in addition to the
1166:What are "washes"?
2940:Operation Big Bear
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2817:Category 5: : -->
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