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seems all well and done.. but I'm not sure if I would call it "featured" with just that, even with the formatting issues taken care of. The only reason I don't say oppose is because.. well... FLs really aren't being held to the same kinds of standards as FAs. Most of the FLs we have should really be "Good Lists" instead of being
Featured Lists. The real goal of FLs is to drive improvement of the lists, and that has been done, all check marks green, the article has done what we asked of it, etc. I just feel rather indifferent about it. --
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also relevant because it was used in the closing credits of the first, third and fourth seasons, but not the second, so it's totally relevant to the seasons. And yes, the discrepancy is curious, but that's because of it's too thorough for something that is just fine. As I said, if the pictures have their license requirements in their page in order they're just fine as they are placed.--
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I'm aware of all of that. 40% are still around. You could see which ones by using storaged version in the history of the article. You'd be able to see the only the pictures that are still around. The lack source isn't a good reason to remove them, it's a good reason to source them or a good reason to
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Not really wild about the location of the episode number column, or that weird extra line in-between each episode line. Episode lists with summaries have this for extra clarity, since they involve two rows per episode line, but here we only have one row. Minor issues, and aside from that everything
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Simple, that's because that's the most memorable image of the series. It helps readers to visually identify the series that the article is all about. If the name of the series doesn't ring a bell (or makes the reader confuse it with some of the other batamn animated series), the image might. It is
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Interesting indeed. How is an image framed by the caption "Batman: The
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And Ned, could it be possible that FL lists are "featured" because they constitute good examples of lists that observed all the guidelines to go by. The way I see it is that there are some standards, if the article or list observates all of them, it becomes an example, and in order to showcase all
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but the only way to get original summaries is to watch every episode, and it's gonna take a long time. And I was thinking about making it look like the other Batman list I nominated, since the plot already appears on the individual episode articles, I don't think we need the summaries again at the
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Just because it has no summaries or images per episode doesn't mean that it can't be featured—and I could list you multiple featured LOEs that are similar to this one. As I stated above: "...when a show has had about 6 seasons or more, rather like this, it's not really practical to try to stuff a
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about the image? Has it been noted by pop historians as being iconic for a particular movement within popular culture? Is there any particularly interesting story behind it? What character came before Batman and lead to the artist deciding upon Batman? The caption does not necessarily have to
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Considering the production data of each episode must be in order, that's what I perceive a good episode list with high quality standards is made of. I currently oppose the nomination and I permanently will. I'm going to mind other issues and (finally!) shot up and stop replying here. But if the
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205:: Please address the respective WP guideline for all your possible objections. For example, is there a guideline indicating that episode lists should include summaries, that there is an specific location for the episode number column or that the summaries should be "original"?
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Moving on... you have to reinclude the remaining title card images in the list unless you want them to be erased (and I swear this time I won't uploading them again). Without the images my say, for whatever it's (or not) worth, will ramain against making it a
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to make the process of adding the copyright info. If some data is missing it can be added directly to the template page. You only have to copypaste {{BTAS screenshot|{{{PAGENAME}}}''}} into the images missing copyright info. The template will show this:
227:: Nevermind my previous comments, without the images and the summaries it sucksass big time. I can't believe I spent so much time in that article only to see it become that, its so sad. Key images are essential to graphycally identify an episode!! --
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T-man, the wise, would you kindly refer me to whichever policy you are referring to when you suggest that non-free content may be used merely as decorative material "useful because they ilustrate as visual references to the respective season"?
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I did about 1/3 of the images, but I won't be finishing the rest. These images also serve the individual episode articles, but the stupid orphanbot just blocked them from appearing, so somebody will have to take the work of unblocking them
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Agreeing with Jay, episode summaries are really optional. And when a show has had about 6 seasons or more, rather like this, it's not really practical to try to stuff a single page with summaries and pictures. This list is similar to
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I'd like to comment and suggest that you use the captions of the images to expand upon them and provide relevant critical commentary; it would strengthen the fair use claim and could provide appropriate encyclopedic information.
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Yes I meant the logos. That there exist no free images to replace them is only one criterion justifying their inclusion. How is the image justified? Not by a caption that states, "Batman logo from season 1". What is
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to some extent), which is FL; and even though most LOEs have color coding, this series is probably an exception due to the multiple names, etc. This has improved since the previous nomination, and because of that I
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in order to make good lists. The more the merrier. the more examples of the same standards we have the clearer it becomes to know what to do (whitout knowing the respective guideline, this is kinda my position).
522:. If the logos don't fit that criteria, the solution is to fill any missing ( and redundant if you ask me) copyright crap. But my main point is that images in Knowledge (XXG) doesn't need images to be
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just says that the image must be appropriate to the subject, with succinct captions or "alt" text and acceptable copyright status, and I think the logo images have all this.
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The later sections need a brief intro, in the same way "Season One" and "The
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But the real question, as always, is which way are the guidelines currently supporting (I don't know). That alone would be the anwer to your concerns.--
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Yes and no. Yes, they are about to be deleted in a week, and no, they've not been deleted yet, the week is just on his 3rd day or so.--
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Nominating this page again, it was nominated previously twice. I have removed the copied summaries and I think it's ready now.
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article reaches the standards I just mention, you can throw me a word at my user page and I'd gladly support the nomination.--
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Whatevah, the point is some of those (about 40%) are still around but are about to be erase. The message said 7 days.--
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