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for an example of the implementation. (Note that if you had used flags, you'd have to spell the names of the countries next to the flags at least once due to flag guidelines, so IMO it wouldn't have been much more pratical.) Also I think the European alternate titles should be mentioned in the table
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article . I guess I should've proofread that section first before copying it. It seems more like a generalization than anything else, so I removed that statement. Also, I fixed the Sega-16 links. Turns out when I put the links up, I forgot to fix the ID numbers in the links. They're fixed now,
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is only introduced ("The Sega 32X was an add-on for the Sega Mega Drive.") in the second paragraph of the lead. This makes the first paragraph a bit awkward in that unless you already know what the Sega 32X is, you don't really know what it's talking about. Hence I think you should reorganise it a
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and wikilinked it for clarification. I replaced "5" with "five", moved the citations to the other side of the daggers, put the "p" in the cite book for the aforementioned reference, and I condensed the book reference appropriately. Odd, because the other two citations cited pages 493-496 and the
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Thanks for your comments, The Rambling Man. Let me explain what I've done: I reduced the paragraphs to two, a much more appropriate number. I also copyedited the lead to the best of my ability, but I'm a little weak at writing lead sections, a flaw I'm well aware of. I expanded CPU to its full
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I think NA should be used instead of US in the table, unless the game was never released in Canada. Also, the consensus that resulted from the discussion at WikiProject VG is that the names of the regions should all be mentioned in the lead in some way or another, so that the abbreviations can be
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Although this statement is sourced, the "this failure" part sounds a bit too non-neutral in terms of wording. Also, the term "some" should be specified (which sites or critics? etc.) and be sourced with more references, because GamePro speak for themselves, but we don't know if their opinion is
78:, the only two featured lists of console games, as examples for setting this list up. Also, this is my first FLC—actually, featured anything—so I appreciate all the constructive criticism while this article is being reviewed. Thanks to all of the reviewers in advance for your time. 809:"All dates given are for the earliest release of the games, which have been released in several regions around the world, including Japan (JP), North America (NA), and Europe (EU)." - prose... repeated use of "released" isn't pretty, can you reword. 121:
It looks like we've been hit by a policy discussion about Australian information. Anyway, barring this part, which affects the "Regions released" column only, I would still appreciate comments and then supports or oppositions
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Not that I know of. I can't find anything more precise than just the years in anything reliable, and anything unreliable has just one or two games with more precise release dates. That's about it.
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that I got for this list, some said the flags were fine, and others openly told me they didn't like the flags. If you find it necessary, I'll go ahead and change the flags to region codes.
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of sega-16.com, given that it's the main reference for the article. It seems to be user-contributed, and would make it a no-no in the same way IMDB and tv.com are.
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You don't need to repeat all the info about Kent's book each time you us it. You can make it a general ref and then just use the author name and the page ref.
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I have no strong opinions about it myself, but from an accessibility standpoint, I think the important thing is that there is some text, not that there is
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I'll look for what I can and start what I can. I can use Sega-16 as a source for basic info, and then what I can find from there will be helpful.
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to verify any alternative titles (if there even are any), I'll add it in, but I don't know if there are any. I'll get to fixing all of this.
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The lead could use copyediting. A number of really short sentences makes it choppy reading and not Knowledge (XXG)'s "finest".
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I can't cite PAL, I can only cite EU because the sources say Europe and make no mention of Australia. I've searched for
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I know that this list mimics other current similar FLs, but isn't the use of flags to differentiate release regions an
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I've done quite a bit of work with this list and I believe it makes the FL criteria. For this cleanup, I used
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There hasn't been any comments on this in a few days, so I think we can get past this and start collecting
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I don't know, I can't say that I'm aware of such an issue. In various peer reviews and other comments at
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Let me just drop that statement, since I kind of put that in as a technicality more or less, other than
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Only the features and reviews are user-contributed. I'm not citing those sections of the site, though.
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shared by many critics or not. Also for some reason the Sega-16.com links all point to the same page.
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Could more precised release dates be indicated in the table, since they're all from 1994-1996?
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What about the Australian region? PAL is usually used instead of EU for this reason, I think
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I think the introduction of what the Sega 32X is should go before the specific detail about
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Four paragraphs in the lead is somewhat excessive for an article of this length per
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From the lead, "They would not, however," may be better as "They did not, however,"
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Okay, I think I've addressed your concerns by doing a little reorganization.
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Reference for "Saturn had already been announced for release the next year."?
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I wouldn't place the dagger between titles and the citation. Stick with
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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for Australia and turned up nothing, so I must go by the policy of
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CPU? Remember to appeal to non-experts. Expand, explain and link.
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mentioned next to them in parentheses for clarity. See
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the guideline discussion is resolved. Can we do that?
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until this relevant guideline discussion is resolved:
1202:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. 483:Okay, I've set it up with region codes. There's 43:. No further edits should be made to this page. 1208:No further edits should be made to this page. 41:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured list candidates 29:The following is an archived discussion of a 8: 641:so that should be all of your concerns. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Featured list candidates 790:other cited just 493. It's fixed now. 866:No, I can't say I know what you mean. 731:"... as 5 additional games..." - five. 242:Unlink lone years, even in table, per 538:, which I already mentioned as being 7: 859:(random example, you get the drift?) 513:List of PlayStation Portable games 24: 885:Sorry, I'll try to be more clear. 1069: 1046: 969: 946: 840: 817: 775: 627: 566: 540:Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV 346: 255: 215: 636:I got that paragraph from the 489:the old version with the flags 1: 1118:Bit time concerned about the 1099:using only reliable sources. 207:Add a section for the table 1225: 680:Thanks for your support! 1196:06:45, 23 June 2008 (UTC) 1167:21:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC) 1140:01:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC) 1110:01:27, 23 June 2008 (UTC) 1019:00:57, 23 June 2008 (UTC) 996:06:33, 18 June 2008 (UTC) 926:04:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC) 907:01:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC) 877:15:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC) 801:20:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC) 767:18:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC) 691:13:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC) 672:08:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC) 652:23:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC) 618:21:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC) 585:03:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC) 365:03:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC) 201:15:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC) 76:List of Nintendo 64 games 72:List of Virtual Boy games 1205:Please do not modify it. 1097:verifiability, not truth 557:16:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC) 526:09:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC) 502:03:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC) 475:23:31, 7 June 2008 (UTC) 453:23:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC) 430:21:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC) 405:14:12, 7 June 2008 (UTC) 386:07:21, 7 June 2008 (UTC) 339:01:18, 7 June 2008 (UTC) 320:00:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC) 302:07:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC) 274:22:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC) 234:22:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC) 164:03:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC) 137:00:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC) 112:16:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC) 89:16:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC) 36:Please do not modify it. 31:featured list nomination 1025:Resolved comments from 787:central processing unit 179:Resolved comments from 65:List of Sega 32X games 741:I guess ref 3 uses a 56:17:56, 23 June 2008 1190: 1184: 1161: 1155: 542:. 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Knowledge (XXG):Featured list candidates
featured list nomination
Knowledge (XXG) talk:Featured list candidates
User:Scorpion0422

List of Sega 32X games
List of Virtual Boy games
List of Nintendo 64 games
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