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I've done the first table for you as an example. Regarding the captions, they are required, as its for people using screen readers so they need the caption to be able to tell them what the table is about. Most
Featured lists that are promoted now utilise these, regardless of whether there is a header
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It doesn't appear to be possible to add the "scope="row" |" lines to the template without breaking the tables, at least with the example given at MOS:DTT. I'm not well versed in template building - is there someone more experienced who can take a look? As for captions, that seems redundant to the
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Ok, I've added the rest of the row and column labels, but I really do not like the table headers (which in my opinion decrease the visual appeal of the list - FLC criteria 5a). Is it possible to hide the captions so they don't show up but they'll still be available for screen readers?
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That maybe correct for German usage, but I assure you that every
American that I encountered when I lived in Germany during the Cold War anglicized mark(s) as they'd do for any English term. Not gonna oppose over this, but "mark" reads as singular, which conflicts with the quantities
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You need to add row scopes and col scopes, if you look at the MOS:DTT, you'll see that the row haeder is shaded, they are not on this list. Also the tables have no captions, its all explained at MOS:DTT. The scopes are needed for unsighted readers that's why it fails ACCESS.
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How does the list fail ACCESS? As far as I can tell, there's nothing wrong with the list as far as MOS:DTT is concerned (correct captions, no spliced column headers, no use of color, and no nested tables). Can you explain please?
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Kaiser class: "both ships designed by Edward Reed and were built by the Samuda
Brothers shipyard in London." Given that this is the second part of the sentence, it would be a smoother read if "were" was moved to before
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No, I don't think its possible to make captions available to screen readers, I'll leave this up in case another editor suggests captions should be included, its not enough to abstain from supporting. I
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A-class review. I feel the article meets
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In fact, you could merge that shortish sentence with its predecessor like "...followed by two Kaiser-class vessels in the middle of the decade, the last capital ships..."? Or something more elegant?
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This is another list of German warships (similar to my previous lists on
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Groner doesn't have it, for some reason. Added a note to that effect.
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You start relinking the units from Wilhelm onwards, why?
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