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306:"along with surprise inductee Larry Matysik." I don't like how his entire name is repeated in the lead. Took me a while to think of a good alternate: "along with Matysik, a surprise inductee." Also, this sentence has three variations of "inducted". To reduce repetition, how about changing one to "enshrined".
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