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Has the province been ruled by four "dynasties"? Yes, Liberal (1905–1921), United Farmers (1921–1935), Social Credit (1935–1971), and Progressive Conservative (1971 to present), were the winners according to the winners column, which can be verified by the big numbers in the referenced data, and the
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very much improved. There's still Nergaal's issue about light referencing, and I'd prefer to see the years unbolded, along with the Coalition relinked on every line (to the appropriate page of course) as the table is sortable, but these, in my mind, are relatively minor. Good work to 117Avenue and
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tags liberally. (2) The graph contains numbers on the chart, so it is simlpy not true to say it "uses only colour to convey information". I agree that alt text should be provided - any thoughts on what exactly? I agree about scope text. (3) Agreed. (4) Why is descending order the wrong order? To me,
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No, I don't think the graph needs to be mentioned in prose at all. I can't see TRM's comment about spreading refs, and I think that placing them in the header would make it easier to read. Yes, I was suggesting another column for turnout - it is quite a major factor in elections.
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Has no minority government ever been elected? Correct, the winning party has always been elected to more than half of the seats, as verified by the referenced data, and the graphical summary. The winning numbers were bolded, but it was suggested here to keep them
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Chronological order isn't necessarily prescribed but it's recommended, and I haven't seen a list go by FLC for probably two years which is presented in "reverse" chronological order. Alt text advice could be sought from FLC's good ACCESS friend
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How should the graph be addressed in the prose, or does it need to be mentioned at all? The Rambling Man suggested that the references be spread through out the article. I could only see turnout back to 1979, are you suggesting another column?
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issue there. The main table, properly formated, removes all such concerns. That said, there is a lack of referencing for the body, and the body itself could be expanded significantly. I'm inclined to agree with a delist at this point.
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I am still a bit upset, that the other provinces haven't been targeted, they have all the same problems, maintenance tags, "wrong" order, coloured bars in the table, using general references, graph colours not matching.
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As for the maintenance tag, I can't see where the 2008 results are referenced, but I didn't place the tag there so it could be more than that. I also can't be clear where the footnotes are referenced.
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OK, I think I have dealt with all your points except the one about the graph. (Let me know if you disagree). I am stumped by what should be done to the graph - can you say exactly what should changed?
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No, tables and images have their own requirements for accessibility whether you see an issue or not. There's no alt text and only colour is used to convey the information in the image. The table
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it pus the most recent (and useful) information at the top. However, if there's a MoS point I've missed, please point it out. I shall work on fixing the issues you've identified.
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Does an election typically get called in the fourth or fifth year? Yes, take a look at the spacing of the elections, which are verified by the Elections Alberta reference.
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To clarify: would you rather the coloured bars and bolding got removed altogether? How about adding a "winning party" column (which would use the colours and have text)?
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I've added fact tags where there is a blatant need for a ref. Still, the intro needs some more expansion. THe table should also have a total seats column.
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appears to use a very narrow coloured bar to indicate the "winning party" with "bold" text, but we know we ought not to use bold in this way as well.
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I am nominating this for featured list removal because it lacks citations and the table is not quite as informative as one might expect from a FL.
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Can it be said that Alberta has continuously had a dominant-party system for its entire political history? Yes, see previous bullet.
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Did the number of seats increase over time? Yes, 83 is more than 25, and a graphical summary of all elections shows an upward trend.
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No, I'm not advocating removing anything altogether, I'm simply suggesting the existing data is enhanced for accessibility. Follow
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I have added a ref for the Lieutenant Governor, the other facts can be verified with the cited data, and does not need a ref per
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be nominated here in due course if they all suffer the same issues. It's nothing personal. Please make the list chronological.
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Table is still in the wrong chronological order (you don't have the graph in reverse chronological order, after all....)
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Did the first election elect 25 seats? Yes, 22 Liberal, 3 Conservative, verified by the Elections Alberta reference.
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You guys keep saying that it is thin on the references, do you what it repeatedly tagged with the same reference?
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Did the last election elect 83 seats? Yes, 72 PC, 9 Liberal, 2 NDP, verified by the Elections Alberta reference.
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Table is in the wrong chronological order, could be sortable, doesn't incorporate row or col scopes, per
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The colours in the graph don't match the colours in the table for each party which is confusing.
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My personal advice is to deal with my comments and then we'll see about specific referencing.
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Does the Lieutenant Governor call the election? Yes, I have provided a reference saying so.
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Why is descending order the wrong order? It should be consistent with the other provinces.
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Can it be said that the dominant party has changed over time? Yes, see dynasties bullet.
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The graph is simply the main table presented in an alternate format, so I don't see a
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It sorts fine for me. Is that all the turnout data available? Surely there is more?
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Was the first election in 1905? Yes, as verified by the Elections Alberta reference.
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Done, I was catching up on my watchlist, I didn't think you would respond so fast.
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graphical summary, with no party winning an election after losing their "dynasty".
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The final paragraph of the lead is a bit redundant as it just reads out the key.
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The referencing issues seem to have been cleared up. I just have a few comments:
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No, it should be in chronological order, no matter what "other provinces" have.
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OK, but there may be a book somewhere which has such information. Maybe ask at
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How is it? I had some difficulty getting the new column to sort correctly.
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Bad start "This article provides a summary..." we don't do that any more.
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The notes can be verified with the external links, just like the data.
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Everything has been referenced, unless you have a specific example?
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in the wrong order, and lacks row/col scopes per accessibility. It
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Election graph uses only colour to convey information, contravening
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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I couldn't find it through Elections Alberta, and by the looks of
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Then why isn't the text referenced accordingly if the refs exist?
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I still don't see row or col scopes added for screen readers (see
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No need for bold linked Alberta in the lead, just linked is fine.
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Second general reference needs an en-dash for the year range.
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The list is still extremely thin on the references side.
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Perhaps I am misinterpreting the 31 March comments.
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Knowledge:Featured list removal candidates
featured list removal nomination
Knowledge talk:Featured list candidates
The Rambling Man

List of Alberta general elections
Tompw
WikiProject Canada
Nergaal
talk
04:35, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
The Rambling Man
talk
15:56, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
WP:ACCESS
WP:ACCESS
The Rambling Man
talk
15:48, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
117Avenue
talk
20:12, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
The Rambling Man
talk
18:06, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
WP:ACCESS
Reso
lute
18:50, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
The Rambling Man

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