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See the upload notes and the original publication, which is linked from the hosting file. The printer ran it that way. If you find a source that says the printer did so without Manet's consent, then would gladly rotate. It would be original research to surmise that this was accidental: for all we
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What "evidence" is this. Clearly the raven is in the shadow of the figure standing near the chair. It's basic symbolism, in that the raven has become part of the narrators persona due to his damaged mental state. Besides, why draw a chair upside down. It doesn't add up.
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