Knowledge:Featured picture candidates/Ecchi

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is important, but a FPC nomination should not be the venue for this discussion. All of the attention that this nomination received has made it difficult to judge consensus, especially given the nomination’s mention in a Commons discussion regarding sexual content. Indeed, it seems to me that consensus cannot even occur in this nomination due to the plethora of issues being discussed and the questionable commitment to addressing the image’s merits vis-à-vis the FP criteria. One cannot very well extract the relevant parts of each post and piece them together to make a coherent argument for or against the image. The result, then, must be “no consensus.” The vote is close, but it doesn’t tell the whole story. Some users have raised a legitimate concern about the EV of this image. No one makes a compelling argument for this image’s EV. Because the discussion was derailed rather early by issues unrelated to the FP criteria, the most important question – whether criterion #5 is met – has not been answered satisfactorily. The best course of action, then, is to close this nomination as “not promoted” and return to it at a later date, if someone chooses to re-nominate it. In the meantime, discussions regarding those other issues can take place on

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I thought I was looking at a cruise ship's fence at sea, albeit an unrealistic one (even allowing for artistic license) since she is perpendicular to the tilting ship and normally wouldn't be or she would be engaged with the event of the tilting (e.g., she'd be concerned about falling), and I didn't recognize tree leaves or plant petals until later. But that knowledge of artistic method would also be valid for subjects other than females whom men happen to deem sexy. Dutch angle, for instance, is probably applicable to a great many other kinds of subjects.

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but you are completely misrepresenting my position. So, I will make clear my positions again. Firstly, I oppose the promotion of this image on EV grounds; I am not convinced it is adding significantly to the article in which it is used. Secondly, I oppose the use of this image on the main page because it is overly sexual; we have to be careful of what is displayed on the main page. Thirdly, while opposition to an image appearing on the main page is normally

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wikipedia. Also the comment about the "chicks with dicks" comic pictures being on the German website, I can just imagine if Howcheng put that image on en.wikipedia's main page. I kinda doubt he'd have admin access after Jimbo saw it. What goes on on another language wiki is NOT relevant to what goes on on en.wiki. As for what is offensive about the image, the suggestive sexuality of it is offensive to many people. This should

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Japanese women, but this picture appears to be of a Westerner, not an Asian, and I don't recall large ribbons being a Western women's style, while the clothing is, so the ribbon's use as a symbol of childishness remains apparent. Sex with children is so widely known as a possibility and a practice—most parents are intensely aware of the possibility—that the picture adds nothing of EV on that point.

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place on the main page (the thought didn't cross my mind until someone else raised the issue). My comment dated 13:12, 11 December 2010 was merely pointing out that opposing based on not wanting to see this on the main page could very well be a reasonable oppose, not me endorsing that opposition. I can see that the distinction may be hard to notice; please be more careful in future.

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right for discussion and votes about this kind of thing, and the opinion of the community, over whether or not an FP should go on the main page, can be sought. The PotD queue is huge and it will be ages before a newly promoted FP is due its turn, which leaves plenty of time for objections about this to be raised and dealt with, either with Howcheng alone or a wider audience.

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other hand when someone canvases for votes, like has occurred here, votes that come in as the result of the canvasing can be ignored, imho. Specifically in this case the reason the people came and voted after the canvas post on Commons was because they felt we where being "prudes" when in reality most of the opposes was on technical failures of the criteria (#5 and #7). —

51: 4399:. A fresh nomination will allow voters to approach the image without having to sift through a long, partly unrelated discussion. Re-nominating this image will, I hope, give it a fair chance to pass or fail on its own merits, without the weight of issues unrelated to its FPC candidacy. As always, please raise issues on FPC talk rather than on this page. 2150:

editors who are not aware of how FPC operates jumps in and votes for pictures, although pictures like this that cause problems are VERY rare. You need to be aware of how things operate on all the sub-sections of wikipedia is not the same way we handle editing articles. Several areas of wikipedia function under voting mechanics, FPC nominations is one. —

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the FP promotion process, I was told that it was unnecessary to try amending the FPC criteria to exclude pornography since pornographic featured pictures would never be used on the Main Page. If this is incorrect, I will revive my efforts to amend the featured picture criteria to take Main Page appropriateness into consideration.

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featuring the picture content on the front page, I would tend to think that was the primary intent of the project? Therefore wouldn't it be highly relevant for that discussion to take place here? Why does it need to take place in a separate sub-project that seems to be cloaked in mystery hidden away in the bowels of the site. —

3074:(EC) This is already too late on the instant someone canvassed this discussion at Commons. This discussion was literally hijacked. The result is bound to be "used" as an argument in Wikimedia & sexual content debate regardless the outcome. Your choice between a no consensus and a will be controversial fail or pass. -- 1411:. Also, I sense that a main reason for your opposition is emotional -- that you feel that this image is a manifestation of "men's control over women". I can assure you that this is not so, for it is within the very culture of anime and manga to portray characters, both male and female, in sometimes provocative ways. 886:

I'm hardly prudish (though I admit I know nothing about anime/hentai/manga/whatever) but that does not strike me as appropriate subject matter for the front page of an encyclopedia. Note that this is unrelated to the reasons I have opposed the promotion to FP- I am very much with you on the POTD/FP divide.

3048:#5 is always debatable and could always be used or misused to oppose an image. But #7 was fixed during the nomination, since the translation was incomplete. Nothing that has to do with the image itself, it was the article that lacked information. The missing parts were added during the voting progress. -- 3692:

The caption does, or potentially does, add information about something most of us don't know, namely, artistic method. In my case, what I learned was about the greater drawing space it affords. Perhaps I knew that in the past but had forgotten it, so one way or the other it amounted to new knowledge.

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This would be misleading since this aspect has nothing to do with ecchi. Also in real life you will have many situation in which you can't decide which profession a woman has. Think on a a day on the street. Can you instantly take a photograph and tell afterwards which profession all the people have?

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I think we have a good reason to ignore the last three "strong supports". These are people who arrived from the Commons discussion and, without necessarily understanding the nature of FPC or the nature of the dispute, just threw in a strong opinion, perhaps as some kind of attempt to "counterbalance"

2657:? It is drawn in anime/manga style, it features at least one character and it shows tight clothing, which is lets the image tend to be "naugthy" but not "obscene" or pornographic. Exactly this is more or less the definition of ecchi. Other elements of this picture are explained within the description. 2064:

Interesting, but the main point (At least with my vote is) that this image hasn't a decent home on this wiki... It's sufficiently high enough on technical standards of quality imho for FP status, but it fails strictly on EV grounds. The article it in, imho, has only a tenuous link to the picture. The

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The you should get into further detail where this tension comes from. You will soon find out that it emphasizes the size/weight of the portrayed figures. Without the dark surrounding, like in the example picture (btw a bad movie), only this emphasis is left. A basic concept in art everywhere. Its all

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In this case, i ask you why exactly you opposed the picture. The article mentions both meanings of the word (in Japanese slang and as a genre, which is usually meant outside Japan). That can't really be the issue to oppose. Is it anything else, or could you explain your doubts? (not regarding the "MP

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works for the german OTRS and he was interested how much trouble it would make. The nearly unsatisfying (regarding expectations) result where 0 mails related to this topic. Instead we had some normal discussion posts, but really nothing against it. Instead some people praised the article or made some

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or short "H"). The only thing i was a little confused about are the sources that never got into any detail, even it is very well known aspect of manga and anime. Maybe it is known so good, that nobody feels the need to go into further detail. A simple image search on google for "ecchi" should make it

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happen? Promotion or non-promotion should not be the stop-gap. Like most of the rest of us, I'm sure, I have respect for Howcheng and the work he does, but this is still a collaborative encyclopaedia and he does not have "the final and only word". There are venues all over this encyclopaedia just

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You're right that my knowledge of manga and anime is almost zero. But most users viewing the Main Page also won't know anime or manga, other than a little unexplained exposure. I voted having the artistic knowledge common to most Main Page users. If the picture's EV requires knowing more about manga

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In partial response to KrebMarkt, sexual content can fit as "best", but it's unlikely when encyclopedic value is needed. It would take a unusual amount of thought to come up with something that would meet. My guess is the successful picture would be controversial on a whole new set of grounds, and I

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Niabot, you implied that the reason I was trying to discount the opinions of the final three voters because they were from a different country to me. If that's not accusing me of racism, I don't know what is. As for the rest of your post, well. Again, I'm willing to blame it on the language barrier,

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Then I must have misunderstood your question, since I thought you wanted to know which caption or text I was referring to. If you meant to ask something else, please rephrase your question. I can see you have a little difficulty with English and I'll try to accommodate that, but try asking again, in

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Maybe a woman would like a career as an artist, or as a firefighter, lawyer, or chef. That's not prudery. That's within civil rights: opening opportunities and not stereotyping her into just sexual service. We already know about the latter. Use the opportunity here to post a picture and a caption to

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Knowledge has never been about the majority rules or sheer headcount in deciding debates anywhere, so there is no point in trying to "disallow" votes. Such an act just produces ill will between the editors and doesn't promote the discussion. :( I don't mean to sound as condescending as you seemingly

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Later on Martina Peters described further possibilities to work with panels. May it be through a "establishing shot", which allows to ignore backgrounds or open panels without gutter, what allows to easily immerse into the story and let it breath. Also it is good to work with different perspectives.

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as a genre is meant to be suggestive in a way, that it is up to the viewers imagination, what he likes to see. The article isn't written very well, wished it was as good as in the german wiki. The main theme of the article should be the genre, that this is what is usually meant by ecchi. At least by

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The article is already illustrated, but illustrating "to the fullest extent possible" would far exceed Wikimedia's server capacity, and so choosing is recommended. When choosing, encyclopedic value has to get priority over artistic value. So, if it has artistic value but not much encyclopedic value,

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If we're voting, I'm opposed to it appearing on the MP. We have a lot of worthy images- this one is undoubtedly sexual, and perhaps wouldn't cast Knowledge in the best light. The subject matter is not biological, it's not fine art, it's, as far as I can understand, cartoon porn with cartoon clothes.

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So I guess the fact that I would consider it inappropriate for the Main Page isn't enough of a complaint? How many complaints do you need? If you're leaning towards featuring it on the Main Page, then I am definitely opposing the promotion. Regarding the statement that this should have no bearing on

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Ok, it is now clear why an image such as this may belong in the article, but I am afraid I am not completely convinced. We essentially have a picture of a scantily-clad anime girl in an article that discusses, in passing, the genre "ecchi", basically saying that ecchi is less explicit hentai. The EV

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Ecchi is a term that in Japanese language refers to nearly anything that can be considered perverted etc. On the other hand its well known as a genre of anime and manga, which play with this aspect. Don't know why the article does not mention anything about mana or anime, since in "western world" it

4390:

This nomination has become thoroughly “skunked”: any result will disappoint a significant number of people. Moreover, a bad odor envelops this nomination due to several lengthy and somewhat heated discussions that only tangentially relate to the nomination. The relation of FPC to POTD, for example,

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The intended audience should read the article to find out what they don't know. For the duck example it would mean: "Great, i see a duck. Whats special about her?" After that question the reader is free to choose if he wants to read the article for further information or just pass it by as "another

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Ecchi is defined most specifically by its subject, and as a subset of the artistic method. Thus, it may not be possible for ecchi to tell us anything new about the subject. While it's possible to draw the female's hair with an extra wave that maybe no one has drawn before, that would be too trivial

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Fourthly, my reasoning for discounting the votes of the final three voters is that they arrived from elsewhere, clearly in an attempt to counterbalance perceived "prudery". They do not necessarily understand the nature of FPC, and even explicitly refer to the Commons promotion- their votes were, to

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I don't see why Howcheng's opinion has to set in stone in order for it to be considered. Every time I've discussed the issue of an image being featured on the Main Page at POTD, I've been told that I should bring the issue up here rather than at POTD. And every time I've brought up the issue here,

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Do they not have the same right to vote as you? And i don't call you a racist! Thats something you brought up yourself. Is there anything that qualifies you more for this decision then them? And I'm still in the dark, on what facts you based your decision to oppose. The only thing i read so far on

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Are your trying to ignore the opinions of people from other countries, even if they could and did participate in this project? Didn't you do exactly the same as them? Since the only true reason i can read out of your wording is: "It might be / is offensive, and I'm opposing it only because of this

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That means that you voted willingly for oppose, since you are prude, instead of voting on the value, executions,... of this image. Guess you don't need to tell me anymore. I heard enough to be sure how to think about your opinion. Have a good day and spend a little bit of happiness, instead making

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Those are guidelines for how Knowledge functions, not how FPC functions. At FPC we operate by simple voting for promoting pictures. Sometimes a votes are not counted for various technical reasons, and when people solicit votes by canvasing like has occurred here, it causes problems when uninvolved

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Since they ripped me off. As you can clearly see, the page provides a crop of this image, missing any licensing tag and so on. If you are not confident about it, look at the description and version history. (Also your mentioned page state the GFDL and CC as license in the description, even if it's

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This picture mainly tells us that a female can be sexy. It may say something about artistic method, but that's not mainly what most of us see. So the picture, if put on the Main Page, would tell most users almost nothing they aren't seeing several times a day in various advertisements, television

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To make clear what I was just saying; the word "prude" is often used rather derogatively, and is not a word that should be thrown about like that. Accusing other editors of being "prudes" is not appropriate. My oppose is based entirely on the EV question, though, no, I do not feel that this has a

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is more informative than is this picture with its caption. And, while this picture probably has utility for the ecchi article (I don't know enough about the art style to tell either way), it's already in the article, and so the key question here seems to be about whether it should be eligible for

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I don't see how it is not relevant to discuss here, this is the featured-picture-nomination section where we decide what is and is not a featured picture and on the main page is the "today's featured picture" section. When this whole project was setup wasn't one of the main intents of it was for

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Much of the caption seems to be about the picture's acceptability to Knowledge, e.g., that it doesn't have "primary sexual characteristics". I assume that will be edited out of a Main Page–ready caption. Grammatical corrections are also needed. Length may or may not be an issue on the Main Page.

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to be a FP on EN. The sexuality aspect on the main page is another valid argument for opposing, although not a direct failure on any of the criteria. We accept votes for or against that are based on personal opinion. We don't discount an oppose vote if it's not citing a criteria it fails. On the

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On EV grounds, with a caption of "Drawing fitting some typical features" and being out-of-context at the top of the page when where it's relevant is further down. According to the text of the article I don't see how this image is relevant, probably what is relevant is beyond what can be shown on

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OK, i asume a picture of a duck on a lake tells us something new, while you think that men control women. Also that a encycolopedia should tell new stories and shall not repeat/reflect common knowledge. That is realy something new. You should read the basic rules of this project again. Ten times

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No problem with that. But you should also have some knowledge about the terms i mentioned. Otherwise i doubt that you are able to vote, or at least to make confident and right decision. The question about the hair and the hair band showed me that your knowledge about manga and anime is close to

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So I'm a racist as well as a prude? I think you really are taking my criticisms too personally. I have no issue with the picture itself, and I have no issue with sexual depictions (though, as I have said, I do not feel this image belongs on the main page). I feel those votes should not be given

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Unfortunately, it seems we have no influence on whether or not something is featured on the main page, and Howcheng has indicated that he favors using it. I would suggest seeking more input, as the disagreement here seems to be rather strong, and thus not in the spirit of consensus (even if the

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The point you raised isn't in the caption so the point you raised is irrelevant. What the picture tells us about females is really telling us something about men who control them, and is not anything new. So the picture and its caption are not giving us new information, which is the value of an

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The picture includes characteristics that suggest being under the age of consent, although not necessarily. The facial proportions are more akin to those of younger children. The hair ribbon is of a size suggesting she's a child. I don't know whether a large ribbon is a fashion accessory among

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One generally edits for one's intended audience. You didn't understand some of what I posted; I could have expounded at greater length to make the case. I didn't understand some of what you posted about anime and manga; but I'm more typical of Main Page readers. The old caption said, "typical

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Your "left column" reference seems to be to "Japan simply does not have the stigma or sexual innuendo it does in the United States." Assuming the antecedent, breaking out of the reproduction role is no less perturbing in Japan than in the U.S. and is not justification for this picture through

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This one is a different case than our other "sensitive" images -- in all the other cases, it was because of something inherent to the image itself. Here, we have an image that's not particularly offensive or anything in and of itself, but it's the content of the associated article that raises

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since the Japanese ideal of beauty is cuteness. Many Japanese characters are actually seen as in Western style. Starting from hair color. The main color of Japanese people is black to brown, anything else is an exception. But in manga and anime any color is used. But thats no problem for the

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Daraufhin erklärte Martina Peters noch weiteres zu den Möglichkeiten mit dem Inhalt eines Panels zu arbeiten. Sei es durch einen „establishing shot“, der einem später die Hintergründe erspart, oder offene Panels ohne Gutter, die einem das Eintauchen in die Handlung erleichtern sollen und die

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It seems that this nomination has generated a fair degree of controversy, and I'd like to ask the other uninvolved closers to comment on how it should be closed. I have stricken the 1 vote of an IP, but counting all others it seems to be 12 supporting and 6 opposed ( = 2/3). I see this as a

2580:@Kaldari: Look at the date of the entry at commons, it was very close to the end of the voting period. Don't think that it had a great effect. On the other hand it's more a less the only picture with such an topic on FPC, so someone could expect that other users participate then normal. -- 2602:, and this page). But, given the picture, I don't see how rewriting the caption can make up for its apparent absence of encyclopedic value. Some of what you've said in defense of the nomination would have to be in the picture itself to gain that value, and that doesn't look within reach. 2181:

This oppose reason is no longer valid, since the article mentions both meanings in native and global context. It mentioned this facts in earlier article version but they got somehow deleted. Knowing this, since i used the English article as a reference for the german article a long time

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concerns. If this passes, I'm leaning towards allowing it, because the idea of omitting those other images is to avoid shoving graphic pictures into the faces of sensitive viewers (those types of complaints were pretty common before I started skipping them -- you should've seen it when

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The "line in the sand" varies for each image. The more people that complain about a certain image, the less likely it will appear on the Main Page. IMHO at this time, the only one to raise a serious objection is yourself, whereas J Milburn's doesn't seem to be nearly as vehement.

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absolutly clear, but as usual it would not count to say "the earth is a sphere and not a circle", as long someone writes it into a book, even if it is obvious to everyone that walked from India to America to India following only one direction. Somehow this is sad. --

4065:, which shares all basic features with animes (except colors and some motion aspects). But i guess you can expect that someone that is willing to criticize an image should at least try to obtain some basic knowledge. At least he should have read the main articles 355:

Ok- then there is a problem with the article, fix it. We can't say "support, should have EV, but doesn't". If there was a sourced section on the term as a genre of anime/manga, and this clearly illustrated the main features, then the EV would be much more clear.

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the prudery in this discussion. Those three, who arrived at the last minute, were conveniently all that was required to push the discussion into the promote territory... Even if we don't fully ignore them, devaluing them at all would push this into not promote.

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Insofar as criteria apart from voting matter, I'm one of those who raised the issue of encyclopedic value. The defenses to that objection have largely been with points not stated or obvious in the picture and caption, and I wonder if that's adequate as defense.

2225:"The purpose of Knowledge being to support learning by more people of more subjects and since we already know that a woman can be made to be semi-naked and possibly chosen or fashioned to be under the age of consent, this picture adds nothing to what we know." 1263:

The purpose of Knowledge being to support learning by more people of more subjects and since we already know that a woman can be made to be semi-naked and possibly chosen or fashioned to be under the age of consent, this picture adds nothing to what we know.

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requirements for a picture to be featured on en.wiki is NOT the same as on commons. We don't promote to just encourage the author to make more. Any votes that are not taking the policies of this FP process into consideration probably shouldn't be counted. —

2764:. After that i added additional Information to the article and left you a comment, that still got no reaction (see voting section). In the middle of this, Howcheng indicated that he would had no problem to represent it on the mainpage. Your reaction was: 4081:

duck", "another drawing", "another map", and so on. The caption should provide him the possibility to get the further information he needs. That are basically links inside the description, since otherwise the description had to be the article itself. --

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I think the assumption that your work will be featured on the Main Page is one of the main reasons people submit work to FPC (same as with Featured Articles). I always assumed that was what the "Featured" in "Featured Picture Candidate" referred to.

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On the other hand we have the genre that is also known beyond japan and which is usually meant when a German, Britain or American "guy" talks about this word (clearly, the writing in romanji only refers to the genre, since in Japanese its written in

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Its a good image. Its featured on Commons,German,Turkish,Spanish wikipedias, Its a quality image and Valued image on commons and was a finalist for picture of the year for 2008. High EV as only image in article. Also we dont have an anime FPs(just

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It should not tell you that a woman can be sexy. It should tell you that ecchi enforces a sexy look, which is combined with cuteness. It should also tell you that ecchi is on the borderline of erotic art (hopefully it has the same meaning as

4325:*Raises hand* Can I? The result seems fairly obvious to me at this point. The only reason I haven't closed it yet is that I haven't been involved with the nom at all. I didn't want to step on anyone's (particularly Jujutacular's) toes. 4076:

Yes you are right that a random picture most likely wouldn't be featured. But it was in response to your demand that a women in a picture should show a profession. You could also have insisted on a apple on a cherry tree. Would make no

2621:, which also effects the WP file page, since it's mirrored from commons. The only thing left is the image description on this page. But it could be easily copied from the image description page. But you missed one point: My question. -- 3753:

Because of likely editing and copyediting, I'm not clear what caption is being proposed for a Main Page use of this picture. The result has to have EV and so the caption's nearly final form is important in judging EV. That's not ready.

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On whether this picture should be on the Main Page, since that's where we essentially welcome newcomers to Knowledge's encyclopedic range and depth and invite them to return often, the picture's EV is a criterion, and a very important

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Yes, if that is really the main purpose of WP:FPs, it should be stated clearly somewhere. If it's to be a valid argument for opposing, then it needs to be incorporated into the FP criteria. Until that happens, I agree with Maedin.

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Your new points aren't in the picture and caption and that's what the decision is based on. The portrayal is a problem because it adds nothing to Knowledge's value as an encyclopedia, thus the relevance of the picture's content.

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I (partially) agree. Like I said, opposing on main page grounds would be acceptable if and only if we take for granted that Howcheng's word on the matter is final; however, I think most of the opposition is on EV grounds.

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If it's only the angle. This can be fixed in five steps. a) Open the image in Inkscape b) Select anything c) Rotate the image d) adjust the document window e) save or export it. No quality will be lost in this procedure.

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The appreciation in question is not in anime or manga but in the subject type, and, evidently, I do appreciate it for exactly what it's worth. And many agree. Calling the subject provocative is shifting blame onto the

2566:@Nick Levinson: Please tell me what you mean with the caption of the picture? (The text under the thumbnail or the description of the image page?) If it's this, than it can be easily fixed, also with references. -- 2897:

Somehow i think it is funny that an image that was finalist on commons picture of the year and caused no problems at all, is making trouble on EN. Guess the left column says all that is needed to understand.

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Erm... What? You appear not to have read my oppose, or read what I just wrote. I suppose I could assume there is a language barrier, but that doesn't stretch very far, and doesn't excuse everything. Drop it.

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and was a finalist. As far as i can remember we had no complaints about this image, even the voting was advertised at all major languages. And i absolutely don't know Jimbos opinion on this. Where can i read

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does have two different meanings. On the one hand it is a usual Japanese word to state that something is seen or stated as perverted. Even if the direct translation of "hentai" and "ecchi" is equal in words,

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I know that i shouldn't compare the german with the english version since it was decided by clear voting in german wikipedia that any topic is valid as the article/picture of the day. (direct reaction after

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facts, are the lines in my previous comment, since you "have no issue with the picture itself", "no issue with sexual depictions". But you do "feel" it doesn't belong on the main page. For what reason?! --

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Females can enter many careers, we agree on that, but this one isn't (it doesn't say she's found in other contexts and that would need sourcing), and so, on that point, too, this picture isn't adding EV.

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appears to be biased towards your own inability to appreciate this art style, since I am sure that many other members will differ in opinion regarding that. Furthermore, an encyclopedic article or image

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An alternate term for hentai, the word comes from the English letter “h.” Ecchi is somewhat gentler than hentai or ero content, usually indicating rampant fan service rather than truly explicit content.

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I don't doubt that some women draw ecchi; I'll take your word for that. But this isn't an example of that, and most porn drawings are produced by men, so this picture doesn't add EV even on that point.

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shows, streets, offices, and websites. (A Google search for "sexy female" without quotation marks minutes ago offered "19,900,000 results".) So the picture does not tell us anything new about females.

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The site says(under the image card there is a little info) it took the image from wikipedia since it's under public domain to make the card. The image was created by the wikipedian that drew it.

172:, totally not getting this. The article in which the image is used doesn't talk about manga/anime at all, and the caption is completely unenlightening. What on Earth is this actually doing there? 2426:

Why should it? The illustration is for the reason that an reader not familiar with the topic of manga and anime can have a good imagination what the meaning of ecchi is (graphically speaking).

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Thats what happend here. Most oppose are based on the decision that it does not belong on the main page, because we are stuck in prudery, and aren't able to look outside the border of hometown.

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For the record: Three comments dated after this Closure Discussion began were recently added to the voting section. They're dated December 12 (UTC) and are not new votes, but are comments.

2198:, which is fairly typical for such illustrations, but not enforced. It gives the author more room for the central element itself, since the diagonal is longer then any side of a rectangle. 3884:

and anime, then the caption has to say something substantially more than that those two fields are relevant, although, on the other hand, it doesn't have to be a full-length dissertation.

2533:'s first edit to Knowledge was 3 days ago. Many of the other support votes were also from editors who do not normally participate at FPC, and appear to be "drive-by" votes related to the 3457:

It does not depend on the artist, neither its nationality, religion or gender. In Japan i would go as far that this is shared 50:50. Since we know many female artists. They even work on

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states that it is "used to portray the psychological uneasiness or tension in the subject being filmed"...and the purpose of this image is titillation, not psychological uneasiness.

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We can, because we have the complete drawing history of this image, and the given page mentions the license and my name, even though it would be illegal to print this card as it is.

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As SVG it is resolution independent and always of high quality. Even if the current renderer of Knowledge makes some mistakes since it is fast but bad. The file itself is valid SVG.

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Looking at the pictures in the google books examples, I can see absolutely zero that would become FPs. For example, dutch angle detracts from EV in the photo in this link you gave:

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If i collect all this arguments in a row, it gets clear that you never had never more of a reason, as you don't want it on the mainpage and any cost, but never an explanation for

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Geschichte atmen lassen. Auch mit unterschiedlichen Perspektiven lässt sich gut arbeiten. Stichwortartig führte sie als Beispiele die „dutch angle“ und die „Froschperspektive“ an.

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Hardly. If we take Howcheng's word as law in regards to PotD, and we think this would not make a suitable PotD, that would be a strong argument against promoting this as a FP.

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Do you honestly believe that's a fair assessment of the various arguments? One point I will make is that, as Howcheng has made clear that this would go on the main page, that

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on the mainpage, which is just an ordinary picture of duck. The colors may be diffrent, but what is the learning effect that you speak about, if you ignore the description? --

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to have EV. Ecchi would thus join other porn genres, such as porn photography or porn oil paintings, that could hardly add anything to Knowledge's Main Page encyclopedically.

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it is great that this is in SVG. Quality is amongst the best! Since anime is an important part of modern culture, I think that it is important to have at least one anime FP.

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better then this terms. Manga are usually in Graytones with patterns and not all images are about the ecchi theme, which could be misleading, if it's the only example. --

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tell us something new or something we forgot but want a reminder of, that being the main point of an encyclopedia. I trust that clarifies what you said you didn't get.

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debate & poll poisoned the discussion thus turned it into proxy battlefield for what is occurring in Commons. I also deny either side the right to claim to be the

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a good reason to oppose an image's promotion to FP status, in this case, it is, as it has been made clear that if it were promoted, it would be used on the main page.

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To the regular FPCers here who are objecting on main page grounds: errmmm, exactly what about Howcheng saying he is inclined to put it on the main page means that it

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on the mainpage and it caused no trouble at all. The only interesting aspect was, that more then one fifth of the people also viewed the image in greater resolution.

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be featuring things for important subject matters, just as how we strive to have a featured picture for each notable species, each chemical element, and so forth.

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There is no consensus because editors used/use this discussion to make a POINT on the Wikimedia & sexual content debate. Grrr how much i dislike to use caps.

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Images uncontroversially promoted on Commons often aren't promoted here; there's a reason there are two separate processes. You really need to drop the paranoia.

1892:. Although it has a greater emphasis as a cinema technique (that may be popular), nonetheless, it detracts from EV in photographs and illustrations such as this. 3402:. Note that this rules are exaggerated, but it isn't such far away from reality. Usually only some of this rules apply to a work. At least it's funny to read. -- 1937:- for reasons as given above (& @ the commons discussions for same item). it's a good image, & we want to encourage artists to contribute more of them! 1189:

Its now fixed in the article and cites are given (in the past the article mentioned it right, somehow the content got deleted, even it was absolutely right). --

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You're also right about a photo of a random stranger telling us nothing about what they do for a living. But that photo wouldn't likely land on the Main Page.

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Irrelevant. The candidate is the picture. The caption is only secondary, and your point isn't in the caption at all. And I read the article before opposing.

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It is an image representation of the term by making an Illustration of the term in anime form. It helps the reader visualize the meaning of the term Ecchi.

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Second no one should leave this discussion thinking himself/herself as a good guy/girl defending Knowledge from the evil bad persons from the other side.

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On whether this picture should be featured to encourage the making of more pictures of high quality in general, one criterion is encyclopedic value (EV).

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is treated as less harmfull. Comparable to the german words "Perversling" and "Perverser" (last one has a strong negative meaning, first is undecided).

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elements from manga and anime", and I don't know what in the picture is a typical element of either, so the EV was lacking for most WP readers. The

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I'd just like to point out that FPC and POTD are different issues. We can easily pass things here that won't become POTD (there are many examples).

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That is an invalid reason for opposing, since featuring an image on the main page and featuring it in this instance is something totally different.

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Took me a minute, but I think he is saying that consensus cannot be determined from this discussion due to interference turning it into a battle.

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Disclosure: anime fanatic, can't pass the image by, can't oppose it either. Also, why is it so hard to find good images like this one on site? ;)

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put it plainly, made for the wrong reason. None of these are particularly difficult points, yet you have repeatedly misrepresented my position.

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Whith the same irrational argument you could oppose any picture that is currently listed and has no description in itself. Today we have a

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the responsibility of the FPC crowd to police the main page. Discuss it with him- if he refuses to discuss it, perhaps there is an issue.

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I am not opposing it for that reason, I am just saying that that is not a bad reason to oppose it, in response to someone who said it was.

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posting to the Main Page, where a less-informative picture-and-caption wouldn't make much sense. It does not meet the criterion of being

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What has the career of women to do with this picture? Actually we have many (japanese) women that draw this kind of art. Have a look at

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Sorry about the confusion. The reply is to Niabot (and anyone else interested), since he had quoted my words and said he didn't get it.

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Please note that this user has no edits to Knowledge other than FPC votes (thus it has a high probability of being a sockpuppet vote).

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Let's put some facts together. At first we have more than 2/3 (excluding myself) that voted with support. Then we have the arguments:

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for it to emphasize the artistic value more than the encyclopedic value. Hence I do not see how this fails to meet the criterion that

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No, I strongly agree, though I think clarifying in this case that it is not going on the main page would be helpful for both "sides".

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In this case, Howcheng has indicated that he would promote it as POTD if it passes, so the issue seems relevant to discussion, IMO.

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Any newspaper shows the same level of revealing pictures as this one. Maybe i see it wrong, but i think you exaggerate to much. --

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The large ribbons/hairbands/... can be seen everywhere and are considered a trademark for different figures. Just have a look at

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They are on FPC.... please take the time to review the FPC policies and procedures if you wish to continue to contribute here. —

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an art form or genre must, irrefragably, illustrate or show this art to the fullest extent possible; as such, I claim that it is

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Third lets convene another discussion on this picture when it will be free from external interference and evaluated for itself.

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Never got this argument. If this is valid in any means, than FPC should be abolished, since we should represent known knowledge.

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That's really not a valid argument. We should not be featuring things just because we consider the subject matter important.

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Objectivity is unavailable for most of the criteria you cited, and subjectivity is therefore acceptable for those criteria.

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You were right at that time. The article was missing essential information. After i searched for some sources you stated:

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I asked you during the voting process which information is missing? I got no answer until voting time was running out. --

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Do you think that contents directly or indirectly related to sex can be among the best of contents of Knowledge and why?

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I concur with J Milburn, but for me, I oppose for issues with EV and composition, not with it being on the main page.

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My toes will be fine :) I really just wanted to open it up for a little more discussion, I'm not keen on closing it.

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No longer true, since it is also stated in the introduction, and if not: It could be easily moved to the right place.

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Yes, there are plenty of reasons people could oppose this other than because of the anti-sexual content conspiracy.

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fine art "describes an art form developed primarily for aesthetics and/or concept rather than practical application"

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different words. I'll come back later today (I'm not in any shape to stay right now) and I'll try to answer then.

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didn't mean to come across, but please review the guidelines before the next time you tell someone else to do so.

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Done it as good as i currently could. Someone may correct my spelling errors. Sure i made a lot of them. ;-) --

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After that you supposed to strike out the last three votings, since the image has a 2/3 support/oppose ratio.

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usually only refers to this kind of illustrations, manga and anime. Definitely a shortcoming of the article.

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After i fixed the article (as good as i could with my English) you found it not good enough (the article).

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The composition is in fact quite typical of this art style and has encyclopedic value in its own right.

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a sockpuppet, as a rule FPC generally discards the votes of anonymous users. Perhaps you would consided

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This is a good type specimen for ecchi IMO. She is very hot for a cartoon chick, and she looks naughty.

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Ecchi in amine/manga(and in this case Hentai) means the character is erotic looking like seen in image.

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On the value of the picture to the article, I don't know enough to comment on that subject, and didn't.

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reason, since I hate sexual depictions." Someone should study the freedom of art in ancient times... --

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Do they know the two different meanings of ecchi in Japanese language and as a genre? I doubt that. --

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I asked the main contributor from POTD about it and I asked them if they could comment here about it.

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Also it doesn't have to be on the Main page like the other imges, it can be like the other images in

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Promote, but don't put on the main page (if only to avoid controversy) would be my interpretation.

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There's absolutely nothing about that in the article, which is about a word, not a genre of manga.

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Juju, it's been a few days since the last edit to this page, perhaps you'd like to make the call?

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everything is tilted. And as you should be able to notice she is in motion (turning around). --

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The image is showing what an ecchi anime character looks like and what clothes it would wear.

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Fourth there is a handful of questions that people should ask themselves for next discussion:

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does say much more than it did. I assume translations will catch up to the English expansion.

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They reject the more adult (as in pornographic) anime, known in Japanese as hentai or ecchi.

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If a major purpose of this project is merely to provide content for TFP, it's hardly clear.

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Whether or not this is Main Page–worthy should have no bearing on the FP promotion process.

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for this subject matter. It also fulfills all of the featured picture criteria. And yes, we

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is what you're looking for. (btw, how do I link to wikiCommons without an external link?)

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Frederik L. Schodt: Dreamland Japan: Writings on Modern Manga. Stone Bridge Press, 2002,

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and probably wasn't voted on mostly by ornithologists. WP is largely read by nonexperts.

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The point people are trying to make (and one of mine) is that it fails #5 and #7 of the

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was POTD). Nobody is forcing the reader to go and read the associated article, however.

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weight for the reasons I explained, not because the users are from other countries.

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Whatever you want to call it, it's NSFW and it's not appropriate for the Main Page.

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audience. Japanese people still see them as Japanese characters. Same works for

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Thats why i added a detailed Description to the image and also added a link to

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What did i say in defense of the nomination, that is not inside the picture? --

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Nick, who was that in reply to? I don't understand what you are trying to say.

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and, inasmuch as there is no practical application for this image and that the

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In short she mentioned examples like "dutch angle" and the "low angle shot".

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Robin E. Brenner: Understanding Manga and Anime. Libraries Unlimited, 2007,

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Luckily this is only your opinion and NSFW is clearly something else. --

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Let me clarify: this image, of high technical standard and resolution,

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Thats not what i meant, and what you should be able to understand. --

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Who decides that? If they could comment here, it would be helpful.

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Why this picture is among the very best work of Knowledge or not?

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per above about wanting to encourage artists to contribute more.

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If i missed something essential argument, correct me please. --

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That's nice. There's nothing about any of this in the article.

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How can it be absent, if it illustrates the main facts of the

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anyways :P, just the reasoning behind them. Thanks for link.

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J Milburn, you mentioned that "it's not fine art". However,

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I've been told that I should take it to POTD instead. The

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Oh, nice. Aim reached. Image hidden. World is fine. Great!

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About 10.000 Images in Manga/Anime-Style using this angle.

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agreed on a clear definition of Encyclopedic Contents. --

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Are you sure about that? In german wikipedia we had even

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Let me go through your arguments so far. The first was:

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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.

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we do not feel this is appropriate for the main page,

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which where skipped for the main page but still a FP.

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All three English texts are the same (comparing the

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I agree that this does not belong on the main page.

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Also you should take a look at the 2515:2/3rds technically meets the normal threshold). 2231:" being out-of-context at the top of the page " 2281:we take Howcheng's word on the matter as law, 2994:What this picture has to do Knowledge or not? 8: 2289:it would be perfectly reasonable to oppose. 3967:we previously discussed wasn't written for 4436:Featured picture nominations/December 2010 4378: 558:Seems to be a rather inappropriate use of 385:really isn't blowing me away here, sorry. 1803:TV-Tropes about the usage of Dutch Angle. 812:You seam not know the difference between 582:May you enlight me and tell me: "Why?" -- 1042:184, regardless of whether you actually 399:You should be able to see that the term 4381: 3768:. Lets see what they are able to do. -- 3264:in German language) and pornography. -- 3138:In response to Niabot's question to me: 925:classical European art featuring nudity 3766:Knowledge:WikiProject Anime and manga 2529:Also, I would like to point out that 1747:Poor composition and per J. Milburn. 18:Knowledge:Featured picture candidates 7: 4272:are not displayed on the main page. 1394:Your point about it not meeting the 1210:as per Purpy Pupple and TomStar81. 537:Insert "Why tilted": Its called the 69:Articles in which this image appears 3812:EV is thus the key criterion here. 2976:Would everyone agree to disengage? 2428:"Ecchi na no wa ikenai to omoimasu" 676:Knowledge:Picture of the day/Unused 4441:Ended featured picture nominations 2828:I don't see any consensus here as 2776:. This seams very tricky to me. -- 773:File:Desinsertion du muscle CO.jpg 24: 3323:In context it tends to comedy. -- 3115:don't know what those would be. 1371:. 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