222:. By the end of the tour the board is getting rather crowded. It would be nice if there were some way to more easily determine which steps were new. Here's an idea: Give the path a border. Newer parts of the path should draw over older parts. Then it will be clearer what happened when. (I would also like to echo others' comments on coloration. It would be nice if the chessboard squares traditionally colored white and the chessboard squares traditionally colored black were differentiated, and it would be nice if the squares that have already been visited were colored. And it should be faster.).
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squares, it was invisible. When I looked at this picture on a full-sized monitor, I was able to see that the dark squares are actually a deep brown, but they are still very dark. Because the color of the dark squares is so dark and the color of the light squares is so light, there is a tremendous amount of contrast in the picture.
239:: The speed and the coloring are issues but even if they were fixed this image wouldn't say FP to me. It illustrates the concept but it's not particularly eye-catching or artistic. Mathematics is often not a very visual subject. When it is you can get stunning images but this doesn't seem to be one of those cases.--
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to actual chessboards, but it will help them to see that the knight must switch from a dark square to a light one or vice versa at every step (which is an important fact for the mathematical study of knight's tours). I think that this picture has got a lot of potential, and I hope to see a revised version soon.
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None of the additional decoration is necessary; not even shading the visited squares is necessary. The question is, how can the information be presented in the most useful and beautiful way possible? For that I think the square color is significant: Not only does it help observers relate the diagram
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Agreed that this has great potential, but I agree that we need some sort of colouration. For a start, it would be good if there was a white/black divide, and, secondly, it would be nice if there was some way of differentiating between visited squares and squares at which the knight is yet to arrive.
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If you do a Google image search for "chessboard", you turn up three different kinds. (1) Computer generated. These are usually pure black on pure white; sometimes they are gray on white or dark gray on light gray. (2) Photos of real chessboards. These are usually dark and light wood. (3) Exotic
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Several other editors have commented that the picture looks "too busy" or "too confusing". I think I have an exegesis of that idea: When I looked at this picture on my iPhone, I thought that the light squares were pure white and the dark squares were pure black. Where the path crossed the dark
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Having not read any of the above discussion, my initial reaction is that the colors of the squares should be checkered, black and white. After that, I can see the interesting nature of this concept and can support it, but only if it actually looks like a chess board to the mass public.
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Frankly I don't think you're giving the 'mass public' enough credit. The article in question is about a relatively advanced mathematical problem, after all, so I think it's overwhelmingly likely the reader will recognize the grid as a chessboard.
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collectors' sets. Of these, I think the most visually pleasing (for our purposes) would be (2). Alt 2 is a variant of (1), whose colors I think are too visually chaotic to be comfortable with.
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