Knowledge (XXG)

:Featured picture candidates/Helium nucleus - Knowledge (XXG)

Source 📝

221:. It would be more informative if there were some contours showing e.g. 'The electrons have a 90% likelihood of being located within this circle'. Also, if that gradient represents the cloud, then what do the gradients on the proton and neutron represent? They certainly aren't probability densities; rather, they seem to be simple graphical decorations. Also, nowhere in the picture or the caption is there any indication that the electron shell contains 2 electrons... this is a pretty basic fact. 62: 51: 279:
I don't understand the purpose of this image. You cannot even see the sizes of the protons/neutrons relative to the electron cloud because they are not even shown on the picture for obvious reasons. So what exactly are you trying to convey with this image? I feel like I'd get just as effective of an
239:
accurately depict the actual probability density at that point. However, there is a more serious problem. By the author's own admission, the depiction of the nucleus is completely wrong; in reality the four nuclear particles are superimposed and create a spherical cloud similar to the electrons. I
211:
I actually don't think it does have much EV. There is a wealth of information you could convey in a picture of an atom. This image only illustrates one fact, and it does it poorly. Since you can't see the nucleus at all in the zoomed-out image, having an insert magnification doesn't do much to
103: 351: 217:
The graphical elements of the picture are confusing. The gradient of the electron shell is supposed to represent the probability density of the two electrons,
341: 17: 346: 281: 76:
Striking image illustrating the huge size difference between nuclei and electron clouds. Top image for four articles, including Atom
155:
If this is nearly infinite magnification, then I don't think there should be any red cloud visible at the centre of the atom.
235:
OK, after reading the caption on the image page, I have to revise my comments. It appears the color of the electron cloud
160: 212:
illustrate the relative scales of the cloud and nucleus; that information is only conveyed by the labels on the scales.
327: 307: 289: 271: 249: 230: 203: 182: 164: 147: 130: 303: 245: 226: 156: 323: 285: 267: 178: 126: 259: 299: 241: 222: 319: 298:
Thanks for your input, but if you want your vote to be considered, I would recommend signing in.
219:
but in this picture it was probably just made using the radial gradient tool in a paint program
143: 263: 174: 122: 57:– A diagram of a helium atom, showing the disparate sizes of the nucleus and electron cloud 199: 90: 61: 335: 94: 139: 280:
understanding of their relative sizes just by looking at the scales themselves.
195: 111: 50: 240:
think this factual inaccuracy should disqualify the image from FP status.
104:
Knowledge (XXG):Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Diagrams
82: 60: 49: 86: 194:
No debate on the EV; it's just not visually interesting to me.
35:
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.
173:I've requested someone at the lab to give it a go. 138:- The red box around the insert seems unnecessary. 68:– Red border and unencyclopedic pink dot removed. 8: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Featured picture candidates 352:Featured picture nominations/December 2011 7: 79:Articles in which this image appears 342:Ended featured picture nominations 24: 1: 328:05:06, 20 December 2011 (UTC) 308:20:40, 15 December 2011 (UTC) 290:02:58, 15 December 2011 (UTC) 272:04:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC) 250:22:45, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 231:21:38, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 204:11:51, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 183:14:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 165:11:15, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 148:06:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 131:04:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC) 347:Featured picture nominations 368: 100:FP category for this image 69: 58: 39:Voting period ends on 64: 53: 260:User:Fred the Oyster 119:Support as nominator 157:Papa Lima Whiskey 2 209:Strong Oppose Both 70: 59: 47: 359: 38: 36: 367: 366: 362: 361: 360: 358: 357: 356: 332: 331: 37: 34: 31: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 365: 363: 355: 354: 349: 344: 334: 333: 316:Not Promoted 313: 312: 311: 310: 300:Fallingmasonry 293: 292: 274: 255: 254: 253: 252: 242:Fallingmasonry 223:Fallingmasonry 214: 213: 206: 188: 187: 186: 185: 168: 167: 150: 133: 115: 114: 109: 106: 101: 98: 91:Atomic nucleus 80: 77: 74: 45:04:44:42 (UTC) 33: 30: 28:Helium nucleus 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 364: 353: 350: 348: 345: 343: 340: 339: 337: 330: 329: 325: 321: 320:Makeemlighter 317: 309: 305: 301: 297: 296: 295: 294: 291: 287: 283: 278: 275: 273: 269: 265: 261: 257: 256: 251: 247: 243: 238: 234: 233: 232: 228: 224: 220: 216: 215: 210: 207: 205: 201: 197: 193: 190: 189: 184: 180: 176: 172: 171: 170: 169: 166: 162: 158: 154: 151: 149: 145: 141: 137: 134: 132: 128: 124: 120: 117: 116: 113: 110: 107: 105: 102: 99: 96: 95:Atomic radius 92: 88: 84: 81: 78: 75: 72: 71: 67: 63: 56: 52: 48: 46: 42: 29: 26: 19: 315: 314: 282:75.31.230.46 276: 236: 218: 208: 191: 152: 135: 118: 65: 54: 44: 40: 32: 27: 277:Oppose both 264:Crisco 1492 175:Crisco 1492 123:Crisco 1492 97:, 2 others. 41:20 Dec 2011 336:Categories 258:ALT1 by 55:Original 262:added. 153:Comment 140:Kaldari 136:Comment 108:Creator 192:Oppose 83:Helium 73:Reason 66:EDIT 1 196:Clegs 16:< 324:talk 304:talk 286:talk 268:talk 246:talk 237:does 227:talk 200:talk 179:talk 161:talk 144:talk 127:talk 112:Yzmo 87:atom 43:at 338:: 326:) 318:-- 306:) 288:) 270:) 248:) 229:) 202:) 181:) 163:) 146:) 129:) 121:-- 93:, 89:, 85:, 322:( 302:( 284:( 266:( 244:( 225:( 198:( 177:( 159:( 142:( 125:(

Index

Knowledge (XXG):Featured picture candidates
Helium nucleus


Helium
atom
Atomic nucleus
Atomic radius
Knowledge (XXG):Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Diagrams
Yzmo
Crisco 1492
talk
04:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Kaldari
talk
06:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Papa Lima Whiskey 2
talk
11:15, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Crisco 1492
talk
14:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Clegs
talk
11:51, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Fallingmasonry
talk
21:38, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
Fallingmasonry
talk

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.