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I don't understand the purpose of this image. You cannot even see the sizes of the protons/neutrons relative to the electron cloud because they are not even shown on the picture for obvious reasons. So what exactly are you trying to convey with this image? I feel like I'd get just as effective of an
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accurately depict the actual probability density at that point. However, there is a more serious problem. By the author's own admission, the depiction of the nucleus is completely wrong; in reality the four nuclear particles are superimposed and create a spherical cloud similar to the electrons. I
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I actually don't think it does have much EV. There is a wealth of information you could convey in a picture of an atom. This image only illustrates one fact, and it does it poorly. Since you can't see the nucleus at all in the zoomed-out image, having an insert magnification doesn't do much to
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If this is nearly infinite magnification, then I don't think there should be any red cloud visible at the centre of the atom.
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